I need to get cornflakes or another sugary cereal then, also get tesco apple pies. Super light and easy to eat.
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I need to get cornflakes or another sugary cereal then, also get tesco apple pies. Super light and easy to eat.
I'll stick them on my shopping list. I like the CBL protocol and eating my carbs in the evening but can't continue if I'm not enjoying the sheer discomfort!
Also go to Lild, they have an amazing fresh baking section, and then go to the frozen section and pic up their cream filled jam powder sugar dough nuts.
I'm going to try and up my carbs tomorrow, I'm just scraping at 200g I think. I'm going to try 250g, so more apple pie and doughnuts.
I'm going to try and up my carbs tomorrow, I'm just scraping at 200g I think. I'm going to try 250g, so more apple pie and doughnuts.
Will take myself for a wander.
More dextrose is an easy option too, unless you want to enjoy physically eating the extra carbs, probably one of the cheapest options as well.
Fooooooks sake. Still struggled to get in anything over 300g ish
100g dextrose (85g)
3 flour wraps (90g)
100g rice (75g)
Croissant & nutella (35/40g)
2 cookies (quite small) (40g)
2 scoops icecream (25g)
Okay maybe nearer to 350g but to say I'm uncomfortable would be an understatement!
6:30 ish my PWO (dextrose), 3 scoops whey, leucine, bcaa, creatine etc
7 - or as soon as I arrive back home, 3 scrambled eggs
7:30 I had 3 turkey fajita's (2-300g turkey), mayo, salsa, peppers, 100g mixed veg, 100g white rice
8:15ish croissant
8:45 cookies and icecream
My whole evening spent basically eating and being in discomfort!
Ditch the eggs, mixed veg, and peppers, all they are doing for you is filling carb space, have your dinner when you get home and keep it to just meat and rice. Flavour the meat and rice to keep it interesting.
Nightmare I love how regimented your being with this, if you can have this attitude with form and progressive loading, let's hope you gets prove your docs wrong and get bak to your previous form.
Thanks mate, I accepted a long time ago this was going to be a slow journey. So I might as well get it right, and step things up slowly instead of rushing into things and risking another mistake. Whether that is getting injured, or trying too many carbs and just gaining fat again.
I was talking about my plan for dessert tomorrow and a friend of mine which is extremely into his looks just shook his head. Most likely thinking I'm just going to undo the past 10 days prep phase where I lost lots of fat quickly. If only he knew.
I was rather surprised how well it worked for yesterdays training. I added in more exercises and got them done in the same time as usual, without feeling tired and lethargic as I did before. So I'm going to try and get to 250g in carbs and stay there for a good while and see how my body copes.
Sadly scales don't mean all that much now, as during the day I'll be burning fat,and during training. So I'll go by it a little, and mostly just go by how I look.
Depending on how intense your training can be I would go so far as to say you might benefit from 300g. I found at 250g my recovery just sucked, you would have seen in my log in the first few weeks of jan I thought I had screwed up my back. I am now of the opinion that it was just not enough carbs on my back loading and waiting to long to break the fast as well. I feel I have main good progress and added some decent mass, I would go so far as to say my mass gains have been the most efficient in the last 3 months then any other time in the last 2 years.
Hmm, sounds interesting all right.
I have to say I'll try it out, I'm suffering from quite a bit of DOMS. Even considering I never use to get them until at least the 2nd day, even then they wouldn't have been bad. My chest is rather sore. So it could be a lack of carbs.
I'll try 250g tomorrow, after Shoulders and then see if I have to up even more. I certainly got enough carbs to do that as well.
The most difficult part is getting my stomach to adjust, it's pretty small after living off of "poverty" food as the lads would say, and then that 10 prep phase.
I have to say I'll try it out, I'm suffering from quite a bit of DOMS. Even considering I never use to get them until at least the 2nd day, even then they wouldn't have been bad. My chest is rather sore. So it could be a lack of carbs.
I'll try 250g tomorrow, after Shoulders and then see if I have to up even more. I certainly got enough carbs to do that as well.
The most difficult part is getting my stomach to adjust, it's pretty small after living off of "poverty" food as the lads would say, and then that 10 prep phase.
I'm going to avoid the cheap semi-stale tesco doughnuts for a while, and have some croissants instead. I was more than just a bit bloated last night after I had them. I'm also going to cut back on the carbs a tad, instead of trying to jump up to 250g. Maybe around 220g would do me better for a week, until my stomach gets use to the large amount of food.
I couldn't even manage some cottage cheese before bed.
I couldn't even manage some cottage cheese before bed.
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More dextrose. I think ice sometimes does 150g+
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Sounds like he is struggling with food quantities so more dextrose could help ease him in.
Dude, I felt like puking again. It feels horrible and I still feel bloated today.
I might add more dextrose, but we'll see how it goes.
Yeap noted.
Ditch your asparagus, thats just taking up space. 426g of chicken, if thats cooked weight that is a huge amount.
If your eating all your backloading at 20:30 no wonder your feeling bloated and sick!
adjust things slightly like this and see how you get on:
19:30 PWO
20:00-20:15 dinner
Grilled chicken fillets in nando's marinade 226g
120g rice
20:45 - 21:00 1/3 apple pie (only if this is really nice light pastry, thick pie pastry will just fill you up)
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21:30 Croissants x 2 with melted butter for yummyness, i cant remember if it was you or bennyc that didnt like banana's but if you like them chuck one in here.
Timing is important, if i try and cram everything in to fast i feel like you do, bloaty and sick, its suprising how much an extra 10-15 mins between feedings can help.
The 426g is uncooked weight thank goodness. I usually put a (cooked) next to it if it's cooked weight.
Also I have my PWO shake 30 mins after trainer, which is directly after my stretching, foam rolling and mobility work. Then I walk home, put rice on, shower and quickly cook the rest.
I like bananas, I absolutely despise butter though. I can't understand what people find appealing in it.
I can try that tonight, and see what happens. I didn't feel bloated at all on Tuesday night and I had all the same except the extra 10g of rice and extra pie.
Also I have my PWO shake 30 mins after trainer, which is directly after my stretching, foam rolling and mobility work. Then I walk home, put rice on, shower and quickly cook the rest.
I like bananas, I absolutely despise butter though. I can't understand what people find appealing in it.
I can try that tonight, and see what happens. I didn't feel bloated at all on Tuesday night and I had all the same except the extra 10g of rice and extra pie.
Good job you like banana's, they are not to filling, and on average around 30g carbs per banana. I have one with my Croissants.
Have something with the croissants at least, they are quite dry otherwise hence why i have the butter. If i dont have butter i make sure i have a drink to hand, just to help. Also they are much nicer being warmed up in the microwave for 30 seconds as well.
Also try not to drink to much during your backload as that fills you up a lot as well.
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But do drink as much as you can after eating, I got massive headaches when I didn't drink enough. Lots of carbs = lots of water needed.