Yes, this is what I was thinking. Thanks.
There'll probably be lots of annoyed people turning up at the depot tomorrow. Not that that'll do much good.
Royal mail, just typical.
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There'll probably be lots of annoyed people turning up at the depot tomorrow. Not that that'll do much good.
It's possible there'll be a late rush but not looking hopeful if the tracking is correct and it hasn't reached your delivery office yet.
Their priority this morning in Cambridge was to order breakfast from Deliveroo. A very noble move from the managers trying to upset people protesting outside the building.
Half of the managers never done a delivery before, and are not even qualified to be a manager either. The other half was gamblers who couldn’t do the job but a mate fixed a place for them.
The best manager once posted his phone through the letterbox while placing bets on delivery. Now he tells people how to work.
Are you a postie?
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Sure about what exactly, everything you've posted is factored in to my post.
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Drove past my local sorting office just after 2pm with the gates closed and a CWU sign on the gates. Not a single sign of a postie. Unless they were protesting earlier on.
Yeah. For now. 8 years and for the past few has been downhill.
Majority stays because are almost retiring and don’t want to change jobs after 30-35 years doing it.
New starters quit in the first week.
And I’m in the process of moving abroad within a year.
Very rare days I walk less than 20k steps. Not the worst job, true, but not the Postman Pat some people think is.
After 8 years doing my best, all I got so far is Plantar Fasciitis, busted left knee and the occasional back pain.
“Luckily” I don’t gamble, don’t go to pub, don’t smoke. Don’t have children. My only hobby is my PC. Also missus got a very good job. But I really feel for those with dependants.
Finally some media is reporting the true figures. The offer was 2%. The extra 3.5% would be if agreed to work Sundays, starting late during the week, proposed 10-18. No overtime. Fixed monthly wages. One would have to trust they would keep records of the worked hours and coming Xmas they would say: you own us 100 hours. Now you have to work 7 days a week, until 22:00.
Moving the finishing time would cause issues for people with children. Most people start at this job because that allow both parents to work. Considering I get fantastic £7.50 to £8 per hour after tax, imagine someone paying for child care.
Their excuse is that during the summer workload is light. Yet everyday about 10 deliveries (500ish calls each) don’t even leave the office. While they have about 15 managers doing nothing after 9:30-10. And another 10-15 people doing God knows what.
Just imagine knocking on someone’s door at 10PM as they want. If during winter, when 3PM is dark people already make nasty comments and some still think we do two deliveries a day. One early and one later. I think has been a good 10 to 15 years is only one.
Last Xmas, to support over 250 duties with extra parcel delivery drivers, as they tried to wing it without spend any extra money, despite the boom from Covid, all they managed to get was 3 extra vans. Yes. 3 people to help delivering parcels for 250+ rounds.
Also every available person choose to work for Amazon. They got less than 10 extra people, which dropped to 4 after the first week.
Back in Xmas I was delivering over 100 covid tests a day, about 75-100 medium to large parcels plus mail and small items to 700+ houses.
Must people want to believe what BBC or similar says.
Majority stays because are almost retiring and don’t want to change jobs after 30-35 years doing it.
New starters quit in the first week.
And I’m in the process of moving abroad within a year.
Very rare days I walk less than 20k steps. Not the worst job, true, but not the Postman Pat some people think is.
After 8 years doing my best, all I got so far is Plantar Fasciitis, busted left knee and the occasional back pain.
“Luckily” I don’t gamble, don’t go to pub, don’t smoke. Don’t have children. My only hobby is my PC. Also missus got a very good job. But I really feel for those with dependants.
Finally some media is reporting the true figures. The offer was 2%. The extra 3.5% would be if agreed to work Sundays, starting late during the week, proposed 10-18. No overtime. Fixed monthly wages. One would have to trust they would keep records of the worked hours and coming Xmas they would say: you own us 100 hours. Now you have to work 7 days a week, until 22:00.
Moving the finishing time would cause issues for people with children. Most people start at this job because that allow both parents to work. Considering I get fantastic £7.50 to £8 per hour after tax, imagine someone paying for child care.
Their excuse is that during the summer workload is light. Yet everyday about 10 deliveries (500ish calls each) don’t even leave the office. While they have about 15 managers doing nothing after 9:30-10. And another 10-15 people doing God knows what.
Just imagine knocking on someone’s door at 10PM as they want. If during winter, when 3PM is dark people already make nasty comments and some still think we do two deliveries a day. One early and one later. I think has been a good 10 to 15 years is only one.
Last Xmas, to support over 250 duties with extra parcel delivery drivers, as they tried to wing it without spend any extra money, despite the boom from Covid, all they managed to get was 3 extra vans. Yes. 3 people to help delivering parcels for 250+ rounds.
Also every available person choose to work for Amazon. They got less than 10 extra people, which dropped to 4 after the first week.
Back in Xmas I was delivering over 100 covid tests a day, about 75-100 medium to large parcels plus mail and small items to 700+ houses.
Must people want to believe what BBC or similar says.
Sorry, missed this one.
Tracked you can buy the service from RM’s website.
When using eBay, Tracked won’t be an option.
Signature on normal items only increase the value insured. From 20 to 50 pounds max. Tracked is up to 100 pounds by default, signed or not.
A business sending bulk, not sure how the deal works, but for the average user, you can send tracked items using RM’s website.
When I mentioned the preference for tracked is because often you may send something valued over 50 pounds but don’t want the expense of a special delivery, depending on the item’s weight.
Also Tracked you can track from the point of posting all the way to the delivery point. Sometimes the system takes a while to update, is rubbish, but you stand much better chance for claims if the item disappears. A signed for is only recorders when posted and when delivered. A normal parcel no tracking. You’ll only stand a chance to claim up to 20 pounds of you managed to get a proof of postage stamped at the post office.
A tracked 48 often is delivered as fast as a regular first class parcel. A tracked 24 usually is delivery on the next day. Usually, specially because of a tracked item arrives at the delivery office and someone scans it as ready for delivery, moment you get a message saying your parcel is due to be delivered at that day (just ignore the time they quote because that’s BS. They don’t know if the postman will have to start his delivery backwards because of times special deliveries or if only those trackers will be delivered later in the day by someone after their regular duty), even if they have to punch their mother in the face, the managers will do all they can to get that item delivered at that day.
A single fail and it starts to weight against their bonus. They don’t care if a hospital later stays 3 days in the office. As long as the items which can mess their bonus goes out, happy days.
Thanks for the RM tracked information.
If Royal Mail have a bonus system can you blame the managers for ensuring they get the most from it? If the bonus system is causing issues with the delivery of mail it's the system that needs changing not the managers' operation of it.
Is there a bonus system for posties?
As it’s a criminal offence to hold live mail, yes, it is an issue.
For the past 5 years no one ever checked pouch bags and vehicles for live mail.
Anyone found with live mail undelivered would be disciplined or even sacked.
I don’t think a manager should be judge and jury and decide who gets mail or not.
Few years ago if no one was willing to cover uncovered duties on overtime, was the manager’s job to go out and deliver it. Now only one would stay in the office until their finish time. Is up to the postman call them, using their private phone, before 12 of the duty won’t be completed. Then call a colleague, on their private phone to arrange to drop off what, in theory, you should bring back to the office and they should sort it out.
Postman bonus is basically 100 pounds per year on Xmas plus 100 pounds of no sickness during Xmas pressure.
A manager gets between 3 and 5 thousand pounds per year.
Extra responsibility:
Short staff, tells people they must take extra or just the tracked of the uncovered duty;
You flag you may have issues completing your duty, they won’t answer their phone, ghosting hoping for the best;
You get attacked by a dog, they ask: are you ok to finish your duty?
But the same way big bosses are running the business to the ground to get their bonuses, I would be naive and expect any different from lesser line managers.
An office without parking space for every van, now all electric.
1/3 of the parking spaces got charger, 1/4 of the chargers not working. Their solution: come early on your own time and charge it or charge at home at your own expense.
Yes, the whole bonuses thing is wrong.
Back when I worked in restaurants, a manager wouldn’t see any bonus before an audit to check if all the maintenance and levels of equipment where properly kept. They wouldn’t reward a manager for running the place to the ground and leaving the problem for the next person to get the blame.
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I used to be a posty, and remember the us and them vividly. My ex still works in the sorting office.
The other thing I remember is managers giving me huge amounts of extra work, rather than getting the other lazy buggers to do their share.
The good old days when you could give people horrible static shocks after emptying all the sacks off a York! What fun.
Good luck with the strike, I hope you get your demands met.
What makes me laugh is the claim that they want to be a green company.
All the villages around Cambridge used to have a space at their local post office and would get one van bringing all their mail and parcels in the morning. Then most would use pushbikes and one or two vans would deliver the large parcels.
In a village with, let’s say 6 postman, a single van would bring all the mail from Cambridge.
Now, those 6 people drive their cars to the office in Cambridge, go back to their village with a van full, minimum 3 vans, then drive back those 3 vans to the office, then drive their cars back to the village. Delivery spam is shorter as most duties waste 30 minutes each way travelling from/to office, some duties would work well working alone now are shared vans, meaning always one finishes before the other, so one person is wasting time.
Someone local to Cambridge can only imagine 250+ vehicles in and out of Clifton Road knows how great that is for the traffic.
Social distance was impossible during pandemic, and most of the days, even fire exits are blocked because the office have way more people in than it should.
Better, any customer trying to collect an item would waste a good hour trying to park and be lucky if leaves without a door smashed in.
All the villages around Cambridge used to have a space at their local post office and would get one van bringing all their mail and parcels in the morning. Then most would use pushbikes and one or two vans would deliver the large parcels.
In a village with, let’s say 6 postman, a single van would bring all the mail from Cambridge.
Now, those 6 people drive their cars to the office in Cambridge, go back to their village with a van full, minimum 3 vans, then drive back those 3 vans to the office, then drive their cars back to the village. Delivery spam is shorter as most duties waste 30 minutes each way travelling from/to office, some duties would work well working alone now are shared vans, meaning always one finishes before the other, so one person is wasting time.
Someone local to Cambridge can only imagine 250+ vehicles in and out of Clifton Road knows how great that is for the traffic.
Social distance was impossible during pandemic, and most of the days, even fire exits are blocked because the office have way more people in than it should.
Better, any customer trying to collect an item would waste a good hour trying to park and be lucky if leaves without a door smashed in.
And delivered today. Not too bad all things considered.
Your item will be returned to the delivery office (at some point, maybe not immediately). You should check their opening hours.
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Strike day today aint it?
Yesterday, 31st August, 8th and 9th September.
I'm here now in the sorting office. They're open till 4pm. They said it hasn't come back yet and they sometimes don't come back on a Saturday till 330pm. I just said I'd wait here till it comes back. I said to the woman that it was marked "inaccessible" even though I was waiting outside and she just shrugged.