RSR Nurburg

Diddums said:
Agreed. The guy's posted to say he's looking forward to going there and you lot post crashes :confused:
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I have no idea as the OP's experience and abilities but on the flipside watching some crash videos from the ring gave me a few ideas how not to approach some sections heh.
 
DAIR said:
Lol it's starting to make me feel nervous.

Not touching that track unless it's bone dry.
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The problem with the Ring is that it's so large that it could be bone dry in one place and soaking wet in another, and you won't know until you've gone and done it. There's also so much elevation change that you can start the lap in the fog and be in the sunshine by the halfway point.

This video is well worth a watch for first timers and even relatively inexperienced people.

I've driven 8 laps myself and 12 laps as a passenger and I still watch it a few times before I go again. 1 lap I drove was wet, one was very very wet, and another was on a drying track.

Don't be scared by the crash videos. It's really not that bad. Crashes happen when people are:
- driving too fast for their capabilities
- not paying adequate attention (in front and behind them)
- thinking they know the section of track they are on and suddenly realising that it's actually NOT that section and it heads off in a different direction (a particular problem with the Ring because it's so large and takes a long time to learn)

The best advise I can give you is to drive only what you can see ahead of you, keep your eye on your mirrors, and importantly, indicate when you're moving out of the way so that the person behind knows that YOU know they are there. This way everyone can pass people safely.

Don't feel forced into moving out of the way of people, do it when you're ready but at the earliest opportunity. Yes, there are quite a few idiots out there who drive aggressively, but most of the really fast drivers are well experienced on the Ring and will not push people who are obviously new and going slowly. It's also such a large track that except for very busy times you can often drive the whole lap and only see a few other cars.

Most importantly though, enjoy it. It's a really incredible place and you could drive around it at 60mph and it's still fascinating.
 
Here's a video from my trip in July, I think from the 6th lap I've driven. You can see that it starts off quite foggy and there are still a number of damp patches on the track particularly at the higher points (start and finish).


I had decided I would follow the local in the 3 series compact hence I did not overtake.

The Blue Corsa about 3/4 through the lap is a perfect example of how to drive to make people nervous to pass; never making a clear move to the right of the track, no indicating. As you'll see both the 3 series ahead of me, and I, passed him very cautiously!
 
I had my first ever lap driving round late last month and had similar issues!

Got to the track for the evening session soaking wet, waited 30 mins for a dry line to start to form, however some parts of the lap there was still some rain (enough to set the sensor off). Also had a bit of a moment through the compression at Fuchsrohre (foxhole), a bit of correction and ESP saved the day... 2 mins 40 in.

Also got stuck behind a Mondeo estate for the last two minutes and in reflection got overly annoyed that he wouldn't move out the way. Next time I'll be far more relaxed, probably just first lap adrenaline!

Was awesome though, even with a boot and back seat full of luggage and camping gear rolling around.

 
That's lucky, you were going way too fast into the Fox Hole there. Not a bad go for a first lap though.

What's the overlay software?
 
Dooksy said:
That's lucky, you were going way too fast into the Fox Hole there. Not a bad go for a first lap though.

What's the overlay software?
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That bit is meant to be flat out (as per the guides above), just unsettled the car a little. Probably ease off next time anyway!

I was using Harry's Lap Timer (petrolhead edition) with just GPS through my phone, hence a couple of issues with speed lag. I was going to use it with my OBD reader but it wasn't working on the day.
 
I know it's flat out, but not in the damp/wet on your first go. There's a hell of a compression at the bottom and the left hander is sharper than you think.

I've got that on my iPhone, but never managed to link it with anything recording.
 
Amos91 said:
Also had a bit of a moment through the compression at Fuchsrohre (foxhole), a bit of correction and ESP saved the day... 2 mins 40 in.
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That was nicely held, though probably looked worse in the video than it was as the stuff rolling about made it quite dramatic, would have been very easy to panic there and turn it into an accident.
 
Dooksy said:
I know it's flat out, but not in the damp/wet on your first go. There's a hell of a compression at the bottom and the left hander is sharper than you think.

I've got that on my iPhone, but never managed to link it with anything recording.
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Indeed. You don't realise the compression from the simulations!

I had to take the video off my camera (SJ400), convert to MP4, place it on to the phone and then link it to the saved lap in app (sync video to the overlay by the finish line).

The app then renders the video again and can be uploaded etc.
 
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