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RTX 4090 - actually future proof?

Used 4090's are now overpriced; most recent auctions listings I've seen were been bid on at $1900usd.

People now willing to pay stupid price because there is no stock of any GPUs out there, but $1900 is too much
 
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Nitefly said:
What matters more is the performance stack and the price per £:

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Ok but how is that 5090 cost per frame being measured? Ah its at MSRP on the Founders Edition that no one can get with no eta, things may change but right now that chart does not reflect reality imho
 
Sedgey123 said:
I am not sure i follow this post properly.

I don't get how you get to the conclusion the the 4090 is 'flaccid' as it is still the 2nd best card on the market and has been the best for over 2 years.
So lets say its the second best GPU on the market for the next 2 years (lets forget they are probably bringing out a 5080Ti) thats 4 and a bit years in total of being in the top 2.
And this is even before considering the generational uplift from the 3000 series which was over 60%.

Now in 2 years(ish) time we are expecting the 6000 series, this is probably going to be on a new node and expected to give good performance uplifts are per previous experience.. i don't see a repeat where the 5090 will be the 2nd best card on the market then. So therefore is the value the same? This is why the term 'Aging like fine wine' is being used for the 4090.
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All of the 'mega benefits' that the 4090 enjoyed have been lost. It's no longer the fastest (5090 is miles ahead --> see link), it's only a smidge faster than the 5080 (when overclocked), even at launch it hasn't offered anything better when it comes to 'price per frame' compared to the 50 series.

I am just jesting / joshing though with the 'flaccid' comments. 4090 is a good card and is probably one to hold onto for now :)

... but, if you are holding onto a 40 series card for another 2 years, then the whole 'retain it's value' point is going in the bin, because it'll have a low resale value by the time the 60 series comes out by virtue of it being 2 gens old (similar-ish to the 30 series resale value now).

Nobody knows how well the 50 series will hold compared to the 60 series. Even if the 6080 beats it, which I hope it would, it will still offer the same performance as it did today... just as the 4090 offers the same performance today.
 
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On which note and in support of my above post, look at these. Obviously, the 5080 is the only card here which is enjoying an overclock and is an AIB - the others are at stock. But this is one of the most impressive cards to overclock of the past few years:

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Nitefly said:
All of the 'mega benefits' that the 4090 enjoyed have been lost. It's no longer the fastest (5090 is miles ahead --> see link), it's only a smidge faster than the 5080 (when overclocked), even at launch it hasn't offered anything better when it comes to 'price per frame' compared to the 50 series.

I am just jesting / joshing though with the 'flaccid' comments. 4090 is a good card and is probably one to hold onto for now :)

... but, if you are holding onto a 40 series card for another 2 years, then the whole 'retain it's value' point is going in the bin, because it'll have a low resale value by the time the 60 series comes out by virtue of it being 2 gens old (similar-ish to the 30 series resale value now).

Nobody knows how well the 50 series will hold compared to the 60 series. Even if the 6080 beats it, which I hope it would, it will still offer the same performance as it did today... just as the 4090 offers the same performance today.
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I wouldn't class a 30%ish average as miles ahead but i guess thats subject to opinion.

Yeah i saw the 5080 overclocking is very good, but that chart is the 5090 FE, so add a few frames extra for some AIB's and then an overclock on the 4090 as well and it probably maintains the same distance as it would stock percentage wise.. maybe a little bit less.

I guess i am seeing as retaining its value as something different - i am comparing the value by how well it stacks up against others in FPS terms etc, not its monetary value of what i could get now or in 2 more years time.
 
qbhatti said:
4090 will reign for a long time i think - and its lovely under water.
not sure how we are going to cool a 5090FE under water
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Sounds like the stock of the 5090 has been so low worldwide the card is almost irrelevant for the moment. There are so few it surely can't even meet the demand from the ultra-rich / those of dubious sanity, like those who upgraded their i9-14900K to a 14900KS just to stay top spec. Relatively normal people who want something like what the 5080 should have been, but are now feeling reluctantly up-sold to the 5090, will be finding out they're rarer than hens teeth.

The RTX 6080 apparently might not beat the 4090 going by the current trend :eek:
 
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Vexr said:
The RTX 6080 apparently might not beat the 4090 going by the current trend :eek:
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You can see where he's coming from, but the 50 series is on the same node as the 40 series so was never going to be a huge increase.
The 60 series is on a new node so it will naturally see a bigger increase in performance
 
My 4090 is going great and I have it too. I didn’t wait for a 5080 as supplies are tight and I dudnt fancy the scrum to get one. I’ll wait another year on the 4090 and see if the 5080s are plentiful in time.

So long as your card plays your games at the fps and the resolution you want why upgrade ?
 
Vexr said:
The RTX 6080 apparently might not beat the 4090 going by the current trend :eek:
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Not really up to date with cutting edge graphics tech anymore, but wouldn't the 6 series offering [reasonable] (I realise this is subjective) performance gains for significantly less power draw be a good/useful step?

All the companies buying 5 series cards, when they're actually available, for processing applications rather than games - rather than enthusiasts gaming and such - will want lower power usage, wouldn't they?
 
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no_1_dave said:
The 60 series is on a new node so it will naturally see a bigger increase in performance
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Hope so, though NV could just continue the trend of dropping the relative CUDA core count and specs for the x080 class cards and below instead of passing on to gamers the true improvement the next node should provide.


platypus said:
All the companies buying 5 series cards, when they're actually available, for processing applications rather than games - rather than enthusiasts gaming and such - will want lower power usage, wouldn't they?
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Doubt companies are that fussed about power draw. The 5090 is 35-40% more power hungry at full load than the 4090. For that kind of work, having a ton of VRAM is a big deal, and there's no sign yet of any other 5000 series cards getting a generous enough amount of it.
 
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