RTX 4090 - actually future proof?

[Grim5]

Used 4090's are now overpriced; most recent auctions listings I've seen were been bid on at $1900usd.

People now willing to pay stupid price because there is no stock of any GPUs out there, but $1900 is too much

 

[BigBANGtheory]

What matters more is the performance stack and the price per £:

Ok but how is that 5090 cost per frame being measured? Ah its at MSRP on the Founders Edition that no one can get with no eta, things may change but right now that chart does not reflect reality imho

 

[Nitefly]

I am not sure i follow this post properly.

I don't get how you get to the conclusion the the 4090 is 'flaccid' as it is still the 2nd best card on the market and has been the best for over 2 years.
So lets say its the second best GPU on the market for the next 2 years (lets forget they are probably bringing out a 5080Ti) thats 4 and a bit years in total of being in the top 2.
And this is even before considering the generational uplift from the 3000 series which was over 60%.

Now in 2 years(ish) time we are expecting the 6000 series, this is probably going to be on a new node and expected to give good performance uplifts are per previous experience.. i don't see a repeat where the 5090 will be the 2nd best card on the market then. So therefore is the value the same? This is why the term 'Aging like fine wine' is being used for the 4090.

All of the 'mega benefits' that the 4090 enjoyed have been lost. It's no longer the fastest (5090 is miles ahead --> see link), it's only a smidge faster than the 5080 (when overclocked), even at launch it hasn't offered anything better when it comes to 'price per frame' compared to the 50 series.

I am just jesting / joshing though with the 'flaccid' comments. 4090 is a good card and is probably one to hold onto for now

... but, if you are holding onto a 40 series card for another 2 years, then the whole 'retain it's value' point is going in the bin, because it'll have a low resale value by the time the 60 series comes out by virtue of it being 2 gens old (similar-ish to the 30 series resale value now).

Nobody knows how well the 50 series will hold compared to the 60 series. Even if the 6080 beats it, which I hope it would, it will still offer the same performance as it did today... just as the 4090 offers the same performance today.

 

[Nitefly]

On which note and in support of my above post, look at these. Obviously, the 5080 is the only card here which is enjoying an overclock and is an AIB - the others are at stock. But this is one of the most impressive cards to overclock of the past few years:

 

[Sedgey123]

All of the 'mega benefits' that the 4090 enjoyed have been lost. It's no longer the fastest (5090 is miles ahead --> see link), it's only a smidge faster than the 5080 (when overclocked), even at launch it hasn't offered anything better when it comes to 'price per frame' compared to the 50 series.

I am just jesting / joshing though with the 'flaccid' comments. 4090 is a good card and is probably one to hold onto for now

... but, if you are holding onto a 40 series card for another 2 years, then the whole 'retain it's value' point is going in the bin, because it'll have a low resale value by the time the 60 series comes out by virtue of it being 2 gens old (similar-ish to the 30 series resale value now).

Nobody knows how well the 50 series will hold compared to the 60 series. Even if the 6080 beats it, which I hope it would, it will still offer the same performance as it did today... just as the 4090 offers the same performance today.

I wouldn't class a 30%ish average as miles ahead but i guess thats subject to opinion.

Yeah i saw the 5080 overclocking is very good, but that chart is the 5090 FE, so add a few frames extra for some AIB's and then an overclock on the 4090 as well and it probably maintains the same distance as it would stock percentage wise.. maybe a little bit less.

I guess i am seeing as retaining its value as something different - i am comparing the value by how well it stacks up against others in FPS terms etc, not its monetary value of what i could get now or in 2 more years time.

 

[Quartz]

All of the 'mega benefits' that the 4090 enjoyed have been lost.

Aren't you forgetting VRAM?

But really, who is surprised or even concerned? Technology marches onwards and upwards.

 

[Rup]

The 4090 can be overclocked too, need an apple 2 apples comparison.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

The 4090 can be overclocked too, need an apple 2 apples comparison.

How dare you suggest having a fair comparison, just get out until you learn to be more bias