RTX 4090 - actually future proof?

[no_1_dave]

Seems likely the RTX 4090 will be the second best consumer graphics card in existence until very late 2026 / early 2027, so nearly 4.5 years on the podium at first and then second place.

It's good because I own one, but it's a sorry state of affairs

 

[SpellowHouse]

Perhaps it's time to revisit this discussion two and a quarter years later

Seems likely the RTX 4090 will be the second best consumer graphics card in existence until very late 2026 / early 2027, so nearly 4.5 years on the podium at first and then second place.

It getting the actually useful parts of DLSS 4.0 should be a massive boost too.

As it stands, I'm even wondering if my 7900 XT will still be in my system and delivering reasonably highish-end performance for 4+ years, especially if FSR 4 comes to RDNA 3

This is the future, really. We are reaching an end. They can't take the hardware much further.
NVIDIA are softening up people with software (DLSS) and the industrial market they are starting to promise massive system improvements - "not at a chip level".

 

[Captain Chaos]

No cards are future proof, reminds me of the old pentium PC's back in the day with future proof stickers all over them haha!

 

[Grim5]

That rtx4090 fine wine is paying dividends

The card came out going on 3 years ago and it's still the 2nd fastest on the market and it will likely remain in 2nd for another 2 years

What other GPU has ever remained in top 2 for 5 years

 

[Ayahuasca]

It could be pushed into third place if nVidia releases a 5080 Super or whatever, but using the two side by side would be unnoticeable.

 

[Neil79]

AND the fact the 4080 Super OC is almost as fast as 5080, I'm happy too!

 

[JonRGV250]

That rtx4090 fine wine is paying dividends

The card came out going on 3 years ago and it's still the 2nd fastest on the market and it will likely remain in 2nd for another 2 years

What other GPU has ever remained in top 2 for 5 years

3 years?
2 and bit wasn’t it?

 

[Nitefly]

Warning for needless quibbling in my post - but it's in jest and for funsies

That rtx4090 fine wine is paying dividends

The card came out going on 3 years ago and it's still the 2nd fastest on the market and it will likely remain in 2nd for another 2 years

What other GPU has ever remained in top 2 for 5 years

Tbh I have no idea how the 4090s positioning makes games look better or not

What matters more is the performance stack and the price per £:

And let's not forget that the 4090 was also pretty pricey for the AIBs at launch (from reddit launch thread):

Now, you could argue, the gains on the 5090 aren't as big at 4k... yep, but then you really don't need a 90 series card to game at high frame rates at 1440p, if that's what's important to you. You could also argue that the cost of the 4090 is much cheaper than the 5090, but it's the same value (100 chocolate bars for £100 is the same value as 130 chocolate bars for £130), ignoring all marginal benefits of MFG (which is very much 'your milage may vary').

Finally, the jump from the 4080 (non-super) to the 4090 is smaller than the jump from the 4090 to the 5090.

There's no real need to go round in circles on these things, but after all this 4090 masturbation / circle-jerking things now are looking decidedly 'flaccid' for the 4090, IMO (borrowing your terminology there, @TNA ).

Of course, you can still achieve a lot with a raging semi. I assume.

 

[SpellowHouse]

I think we are reaching a point where upgrades are pretty much dead. The only time you need consider a new GPU is as a part of an entirely new PC.

 

[SeeNoWeevil]

I hate the term but the only hardware I would even remotely consider 'future proof' is a good pair of audiophile speakers or subwoofer. AV receivers can also be very long lived if you avoid passing video through them.

 

[qbhatti]

4090 will reign for a long time i think - and its lovely under water.
not sure how we are going to cool a 5090FE under water

 

[Ayahuasca]

4090 will reign for a long time i think

How can it reign for a long time when it’s already beaten?

 

[Neil79]

How can it reign for a long time when it’s already beaten?

The 4090 is the queen and the 5090 is the new king?

 

[no_1_dave]

Upgrades are less noticeable now that the only difference it makes is changing DLSS from balanced to quality and keeping the same framerate.
This is pretty much all that a good chunk of people who bought one yesterday will be able to do

 

[varkanoid]

que buyers remorse, when they turn up.

 

[Delta3D]

Safe to say I'm going to go for a used RTX 4090 now instead of a 5080 after seeing the prices!

Can't really see any positive to going 5080 if a 2nd hand 4090 can be had for the same, if not less? Unless someone can advise otherwise?

 

[Quartz]

It could be pushed into third place if nVidia releases a 5080 Super or whatever,

There's plenty of room between the 5080 and the 5090 so you can be sure they will. Probably in about 9 months.

 

[Grim5]

3 years?
2 and bit wasn’t it?

Going on 3 now

Warning for needless quibbling in my post - but it's in jest and for funsies



Tbh I have no idea how the 4090s positioning makes games look better or not

What matters more is the performance stack and the price per £:

And let's not forget that the 4090 was also pretty pricey for the AIBs at launch (from reddit launch thread):

Now, you could argue, the gains on the 5090 aren't as big at 4k... yep, but then you really don't need a 90 series card to game at high frame rates at 1440p, if that's what's important to you. You could also argue that the cost of the 4090 is much cheaper than the 5090, but it's the same value (100 chocolate bars for £100 is the same value as 130 chocolate bars for £130), ignoring all marginal benefits of MFG (which is very much 'your milage may vary').

Finally, the jump from the 4080 (non-super) to the 4090 is smaller than the jump from the 4090 to the 5090.

There's no real need to go round in circles on these things, but after all this 4090 masturbation / circle-jerking things now are looking decidedly 'flaccid' for the 4090, IMO (borrowing your terminology there, @TNA ).

Of course, you can still achieve a lot with a raging semi. I assume.

Who's tna?

 

[Sedgey123]

Warning for needless quibbling in my post - but it's in jest and for funsies



Tbh I have no idea how the 4090s positioning makes games look better or not

What matters more is the performance stack and the price per £:

And let's not forget that the 4090 was also pretty pricey for the AIBs at launch (from reddit launch thread):

Now, you could argue, the gains on the 5090 aren't as big at 4k... yep, but then you really don't need a 90 series card to game at high frame rates at 1440p, if that's what's important to you. You could also argue that the cost of the 4090 is much cheaper than the 5090, but it's the same value (100 chocolate bars for £100 is the same value as 130 chocolate bars for £130), ignoring all marginal benefits of MFG (which is very much 'your milage may vary').

Finally, the jump from the 4080 (non-super) to the 4090 is smaller than the jump from the 4090 to the 5090.

There's no real need to go round in circles on these things, but after all this 4090 masturbation / circle-jerking things now are looking decidedly 'flaccid' for the 4090, IMO (borrowing your terminology there, @TNA ).

Of course, you can still achieve a lot with a raging semi. I assume.

I am not sure i follow this post properly.

I don't get how you get to the conclusion the the 4090 is 'flaccid' as it is still the 2nd best card on the market and has been the best for over 2 years.
So lets say its the second best GPU on the market for the next 2 years (lets forget they are probably bringing out a 5080Ti) thats 4 and a bit years in total of being in the top 2.
And this is even before considering the generational uplift from the 3000 series which was over 60%.

Now in 2 years(ish) time we are expecting the 6000 series, this is probably going to be on a new node and expected to give good performance uplifts are per previous experience.. i don't see a repeat where the 5090 will be the 2nd best card on the market then. So therefore is the value the same? This is why the term 'Aging like fine wine' is being used for the 4090.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Safe to say I'm going to go for a used RTX 4090 now instead of a 5080 after seeing the prices!

Can't really see any positive to going 5080 if a 2nd hand 4090 can be had for the same, if not less? Unless someone can advise otherwise?

I agree with your logic but given yesterdays 'best launch eva' (by however the Nvidia marketing team want to spin it) I'd say the value of a used 4090 just went up!