Yeah that is completely out of order of them, especially seeing as when you run the windows 10 edition (free trial) it runs the java based version anyway, it even knows my player name and skin that I'm using, I'm certainly not buying it again just to use the ray traced version.
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RTX NO!!!
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Yeah that is completely out of order of them, especially seeing as when you run the windows 10 edition (free trial) it runs the java based version anyway, it even knows my player name and skin that I'm using, I'm certainly not buying it again just to use the ray traced version.
no one is having a dig people who bought one mate. If you're happy, then good for you. I don't understand why people spend £250,000 on a car, but good for them too.
No need to be defensive, it's a tech forum, we're going to discuss, and often disagree on, tech; it's a divisive topic. If I had millions in the bank I still wouldn't buy one, because I don't want to fund such marketing practices. But you did, you're happy, and even better you've got a custom loop, all is good
I don't think anyone bought it for the RayTracing anyway, I think everyone was just thirsty for more power than a 1080ti, and the RTX2080ti was the only card that could offer it.
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That's normal for an improved version of a game though. People who bought GTA V on the PS3 had to buy it again for the PS4. Also Skyrim owners had to buy the game again for VR. Fallout 76 owners had to buy the game again for VR. That's not to say I approve of this money grabbing society.
Don't say that too loud or we'll have Cameron sniffing around..No.... it makes it a HOT pig.
Pigs in high heels is another thing altogether.
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Quake II with RTX runs like a dream mind.
Quake II was a game made in an era of the AMD K6 and Intel Pentium I and II,and when hardware 3D acceleration was just about starting to be a thing - most people were still running it in software mode. It was designed to run at high FPS for the era. This is why it looks so primitive by today's standards and within a brief period games such as Unreal and Unreal Tournament raised the bar. Its not only the graphics,but the graphics design which is lacking,so polishing it up with better lighting,shadows and reflections is polishing a turd and for a game like that,its all about the FPS and exploiting glitches in the engine like the physics. TBH,I don't think making it run slower makes sense - I used to run games like that at lower settings to maximise FPS!
Quake II was a game made in an era of the AMD K6 and Intel Pentium I and II,and when hardware 3D acceleration was just about starting to be a thing - most people were still running it in software mode. It was designed to run at high FPS for the era. This is why it looks so primitive by today's standards and within a brief period games such as Unreal and Unreal Tournament raised the bar. Its not only the graphics,but the graphics design which is lacking,so polishing it up with better lighting,shadows and reflections is polishing a turd and for a game like that,its all about the FPS and exploiting glitches in the engine like the physics. TBH,I don't think making it run slower makes sense - I used to run games like that at lower settings to maximise FPS!
God I loved this game so much. The single player campaign blew my mind at the time, I can still follow the path for the first few maps in my head.
And as for the multiplayer and the modding community, it was magic. Remember that map with a tunnel that had a power up in it, but a button other players could kit would kill you if you weren't quick enough.
Quake II holds fonder memories that Half Life for me. I'd love to play it ray traced.
I wouldn't mind if it was DLC'd for owners. Ie a small additional cost. It's buying the game outright again that annoys me.
Just started playing Minecraft for Windows, I like it. But it annoys me I had to choose between that and Java, and it seems it's pretty much the same as PE, but I'd have to buy that too.
Them rtx on vs off photos are shocking.
They could have done most of that by adding a splash of colour to the game.
Quake II was a game made in an era of the AMD K6 and Intel Pentium I and II,and when hardware 3D acceleration was just about starting to be a thing - most people were still running it in software mode. It was designed to run at high FPS for the era. This is why it looks so primitive by today's standards and within a brief period games such as Unreal and Unreal Tournament raised the bar. Its not only the graphics,but the graphics design which is lacking,so polishing it up with better lighting,shadows and reflections is polishing a turd and for a game like that,its all about the FPS and exploiting glitches in the engine like the physics. TBH,I don't think making it run slower makes sense - I used to run games like that at lower settings to maximise FPS!
I played it recently and in 4K it’s slow. Completely ruined the experience and my fond memories
Tried it last night and a lot of areas and times of day are not really improved. Specially made levels with texture packs can be good though like in the digital foundry vid.
quake 2 rtx was way better, makes the game really fun to play again.
main takeaway I’ve had is path tracing etc is the future for gaming
quake 2 rtx was way better, makes the game really fun to play again.
main takeaway I’ve had is path tracing etc is the future for gaming
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I played it recently and in 4K it’s slow. Completely ruined the experience and my fond memories
My memories of Quake 2 and Unreal Tournament was fast paced action. Adding all these new effects slows down gameplay,and I know it is for testing out technologies but there are plenty of other games which would be better tests for this,not a game made remember for being a fast competitive FPS game!
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The main reason Quake 2 looks so good is because the textures have been replaced with high detailed versions.
They want people to believe that simply adding RTX to a 23 year old game will make it look modern. Very misleading marketing because the reality is the textures were replaced along with a whole bunch of other stuff.
Yes path tracing is the future and maybe the 3080ti or its successor, the 4080ti will get us there but we have a very long wait ahead of us.
Thought they where clear it was a game conversion. It’s obvious they did a lot of work. The end result looks good and is fun to play
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It would look good on a non RTX card though because of the improved textures etc. It's a gimmick to make you think RTX has improved the graphics.
That lighting is mostly achievable without ray tracing. We see many of those lighting effects in RDR2 without RTX. But Minecraft was SUPPOSED to be simplistic and look the way it did.
Best spending the money on a VR headset and playing the VR version though.
Best spending the money on a VR headset and playing the VR version though.