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RTX NO!!!

I think the problem is a lot needs to be added to Minecraft to make RayTracing look it's best. The sad fact is the workarounds studios have been using for years would look almost as good.

The true power of RayTacing lies in generational improvements, and proper leverage. I do think it will eventually transform the aesthetic of games, I'm just not willing to pay the obscene premium to enjoy it at a sub-par level. Give it another generation and developers spending a few years working with a standardised platform (ala Microsoft), then we'll talk.

I've never been an early adopter. Frankly, we should be thankful that people are willing to overpay for the latest tech, that's how it becomes affordable and mainstream.
 
Minecraft ray tracing with texture packs, looks really nice


There effects impossible to create without ray tracing
 
OpenToSuggestions said:
I think the 2080Ti is an absolute beast of a card, but the whole ray tracing thing is not a reason to buy one.
It is two years old now though and I look forward to what the 3080 series brings :).
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yeah totally. I picked up a 2070s on sale when my 1080ti failed. You don't need a £1400 to enjoy these games
 
DanF said:
yeah totally. I picked up a 2070s on sale when my 1080ti failed. You don't need a £1400 to enjoy these games
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Second hand market for me, I'm skint these days but when I had a career this was a hobby I 9ut a fair bit of dosh into. Until graphics cards are sensible, I'll stick to second hand.

Is the 2070s quite a lot faster than my OC'd 1080?
 
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The cost is relative though. In my opinion it's crazy to spend more than a week's wages on a GPU. I draw the line at having to work hard for a whole week.

Yet if a high earner in somewhere like central London earns that much in a week, why not spend £1400? I probably would if I earned that in a week.

Some people may be on such a good wage that they can buy an RTX Titan with a week's wages. Most would say they're crazy for doing it yet it would be no different than me buying an RTX 2060 as it would make a similar size dent it my wallet.
 
CuriousTomCat said:
The cost is relative though. In my opinion it's crazy to spend more than a week's wages on a GPU. I draw the line at having to work hard for a whole week.

Yet if a high earner in somewhere like central London earns that much in a week, why not spend £1400? I probably would if I earned that in a week.

Some people may be on such a good wage that they can buy an RTX Titan with a week's wages. Most would say they're crazy for doing it yet it would be no different than me buying an RTX 2060 as it would make a similar size dent it my wallet.
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For me, it's more about contributing to the obscenity of the prices. If they sell more than the 20 series, we'll never see reasonable pricing again. Unless they're challenged by AMD and Intel.
 
WantoN said:
Second hand market for me, I'm skint these days but when I had a career this was a hobby I 9ut a fair bit of dosh into. Until graphics cards are sensible, I'll stick to second hand.

Is the 2070s quite a lot faster than my OC'd 1080?
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nah not worth it, wait for the next gen
 
DanF said:
nah not worth it, wait for the next gen
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It is a lot faster, but possibly not worth the expense given new cards coming out.

Just had another go at RTX Minecraft, 40FPS on a jungle RTX world, this is with 12 chunks renders and DLSS on at 1440p.
 
DanF said:
nah not worth it, wait for the next gen
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willhub said:
It is a lot faster, but possibly not worth the expense given new cards coming out.

Just had another go at RTX Minecraft, 40FPS on a jungle RTX world, this is with 12 chunks renders and DLSS on at 1440p.
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Wouldn't buy it, too skint to spend any more than £15 on my current project, let alone hundreds!! :D

Just interested in the difference to my card, as its effectively the next gen, one tier down, upgraded version; bit of an oddball. Genuinely surprised by the extra performance my overclock achieved, especially at 45Cish, wondered how this card would compare.

EDIT: Quick Google shows about 17% at my resolution, don't know how much difference the OC would make. Definitely doesn't seem worth it at £500 to £750. If I was upgrading from my old 980, then at £500 plus a waterblock I suppose it's reasonable-ish, but I did pay that much for my 980 reference new, and it was the most powerful card in the world at the time, bar the Titan.
 
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willhub said:
It is a lot faster
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My (admittedly poor) research suggests the 2070s is about 10 - 17% faster, with my overclock (boost 2200, avg 2160) this reduces to a stone's throw. Not bad for a four year old card, and not what I'd call a lot faster.

You could overclock the 2070s too; they seem to do quite well. Then again, that makes the cheapest upgrade path (for WC 1080 owners) a £620 to £870 cost proposition.... for 17%.

I'm assuming it won't be long before modern games just aren't well optimised for my card, and at 3440x1440 I'm going to be scuppered when I catch up to modern releases.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but if the GPU landscape doesn't change dramatically within the next 3 years, I may be switching to console. Can you watercool them? :D
 
CuriousTomCat said:
The cost is relative though. In my opinion it's crazy to spend more than a week's wages on a GPU. I draw the line at having to work hard for a whole week.

Yet if a high earner in somewhere like central London earns that much in a week, why not spend £1400? I probably would if I earned that in a week.

Some people may be on such a good wage that they can buy an RTX Titan with a week's wages. Most would say they're crazy for doing it yet it would be no different than me buying an RTX 2060 as it would make a similar size dent it my wallet.
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The trouble is that you find areas where wages are higher the rent is also far higher :(

Paying £900 to £1000 pm rent for just a single bedroom flat or £2000+ pm Rent for a house really eats into them higher wages

Plus the higher the wage the more TAX you pay, So that another big cut out them higher wages
 
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WantoN said:
Just interested in the difference to my card, as its effectively the next gen, one tier down, upgraded version; bit of an oddball. Genuinely surprised by the extra performance my overclock achieved, especially at 45Cish, wondered how this card would compare.
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It's a side-grade from the 1080ti. A few games a bit smoother and it's better in VR. The main thing is it's really quite and totally stable. The 1080ti degraded so became really unstable even at stock clocks in the end.

Choices where to risk another 2nd hand 1080ti or get a newer card, otherwise I'd have waited for the next gen cards to come out.
 
WantoN said:
My (admittedly poor) research suggests the 2070s is about 10 - 17% faster, with my overclock (boost 2200, avg 2160) this reduces to a stone's throw. Not bad for a four year old card, and not what I'd call a lot faster.

You could overclock the 2070s too; they seem to do quite well. Then again, that makes the cheapest upgrade path (for WC 1080 owners) a £620 to £870 cost proposition.... for 17%.

I'm assuming it won't be long before modern games just aren't well optimised for my card, and at 3440x1440 I'm going to be scuppered when I catch up to modern releases.

Can't believe I'm saying this, but if the GPU landscape doesn't change dramatically within the next 3 years, I may be switching to console. Can you watercool them? :D
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A 1080Ti is 30-40% faster than a 1080 and a 2070S is slightly faster than a 1080Ti so it is much more than 17%.

A 2070S will do the same 2-2.1ghz+ depending on silicon.
 
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