Rules changing for new drivers?

Not really a fan of this, even though I'll rarely drive at night. Also, not all young drivers are little boy racers, so it won't be fair on those who obey the law.
 
This would need a whole new style of camera! :p

I doubt anything will change, surely the police can already pull you being overloaded or driving like a tard so this would only really affect innocent drivers.
 
It wont be long before young drivers are restricted to a max bhp/weight figure and a car that will not exceed 70mph...

They did it with mopeds/bikes, they will do it with cars...

It wont reduce the deaths by much, but it will happen...

:o
 
Dr Who said:
It wont be long before young drivers are restricted to a max bhp/weight figure and a car that will not exceed 70mph...

They did it with mopeds/bikes, they will do it with cars...

It wont reduce the deaths by much, but it will happen...

:o
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I think its a good idea. I got into a lot less dangerous situations when I was driving a 75bhp 306 which could'nt get above 70mph if the wind was blowing the wrong way lol :D
 
Kamerad said:
I think its a good idea. I got into a lot less dangerous situations when I was driving a 75bhp 306 which could'nt get above 70mph if the wind was blowing the wrong way lol :D
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I have been saying it for about 5 years, I think we are getting closer to the time now...

:eek:
 
Hmm, I'm not sure how they enforce a power restriction. I could only imagine it being phased in for new drivers and not retroacted, so I've nothing to worry about! :p
 
If they actually did bring this in, it'd make my job a hell of a lot harder - going to London at 9pm and driving home at 2-3am (or later, depending on what needs doing) is far far less stressful and much easier than going in during the day.

I think the curfew thing is a stupid idea that'd be very difficult to enforce, too - wasting yet more police time.
 
Power Restriction?

Maybe stop 18 year olds from buying big jap sports cars or porsches... oh wait you have to have a hell of a lot cash to do that anyway. Not the sort of cash most 18 year olds have.

I suppose I was a danger on the roads due to my almighty 1.6 focus at the age of 18!
 
But a lot of the people that drive like idiots will drive like it whatever car they're in, in which case a power restriction won't really help
 
I'm not completely convinced that limiting the power of the cars will help

Young drivers will take risks and often these can be increased by driving a car with little power. I've had to brake hard on a few occasions to let some twit in who's trying to overtake me in a 1.0 Corsa when I'm doing 60 on an NSL

I would look at improving the tuition. When you're taught to drive you're not taught how to handle the car when it's on the limit, simple things like not braking on corners, not lifting off on corners, etc which cause a large number of accidents

The initial tuition should be more in line with the Advanced driver course and to focus on anticipation

There's no excuse whatsoever for those people racing in Hull though and the sentences weren't nearly harsh enough
 
PMKeates said:
Hmm, I'm not sure how they enforce a power restriction. I could only imagine it being phased in for new drivers and not retroacted, so I've nothing to worry about! :p
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The easy way is to require insurance companies not to insure anyone who is within the "restricted" age bracket on anything over the power restriction. Trouble is, you'd just get more uninsured drivers on the roads.

Improved tuition will go a long way. We regularly get driving instructors taking the IAM course with our group - in 90% of cases they are fantastic urban drivers, but show them a fast A-road or a country lane and they have no idea how to drive properly. If they can't, how can we expect their pupils to?

Driving a car is one of the most dangerous things you do on a regular basis. Unfortunately, people are taught to pass the driving test, not how to drive.
 
Enfield said:
They couldn't enforce that. It would be a waste of Police resources too.

Glad im 20 in a few months anyway :D
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They have done it on motorcycles... if you get caught with an unrestricted bike, nice little points loading... and yes it would need to be phased in...

I am not saying it is a cure, but it will keep younger drivers away from vehicles that can do more damage, and its not just porsches and the likes... they can do quite a bit of damage in daddy's car as well...

Why does an 18yr old need a high performance vehicle? surely its about transport not power...

Yes there are plenty out there that are responsible enough to drive a high performance vehicle, but there are a larger number that arent and dont have the skills/KNOWLEDGE required to get them out of trouble, so I definately agree, more training, maybe compulsory is one good option...(I know a few older drivers who could benefit from this as well, its not just young men, although the statistics show they are the greatest at risk group, just like they were on 70mph mopeds)...

I also would like to add, that the standard of driving in the uk amongst younger drivers is infinately better than most younger drivers in cyprus/egypt...

On my way to Cairo airport on friday, 2 young guys came past us weaving thru the traffic in a fiat mirafiori <sp> my driver uttered one of the few new english words I have taught him (tossah) and we carried on...

1.5 miles further down the road we see the fiat embedded in the wall and 2 young lads crawling out of the wreckage... 4 other cars involved...

Suicidal impatience... every week in CY another young driver is KSI in a ITR/CTR/Evo/WRX/Glanza etc etc... as a result CY is now on a war against modded cars (performance) to the extent that it can carry a 3 year sentance and confiscation/crushing of the car... A little heavy handed, but I am told they are happier if the car has uprated brakes, suspension etc etc...

I agree with many of the above that education is the key, it should start in schools like it does in the US, and be compulsory... however, there are always those that think "it will never happen to me, I am a good driver"

;)
 
I heard about this on the radio this morning.

They had a quote from lady from the DSA saying that they were thinking about imposing a restriction for new drivers so that they can only drive on 20 and 30 mph restricted roads.

It made me chuckle anyway :D
 
Usel said:
I heard about this on the radio this morning.

They had a quote from lady from the DSA saying that they were thinking about imposing a restriction for new drivers so that they can only drive on 20 and 30 mph restricted roads.

It made me chuckle anyway :D
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LOL, how would that ever work, they need to come up with a plan they can actually enforce, the insurance based idea is the only one that they could police easily but it would mean more drivers on the road with no insurance.
 
Charging say 17-21 yr olds a set amount for insurance on slower cars regardless of where they live etc would be good. And stopping youngsters(17-20) getting insured on Mummies car to ride to college and back.


:D

- I do feel 17yr olds in grp9+ cars shouldn't be allowed.
 
I can see the reasoning behind this and thankfully the insurance quotes can help to stop this

The thing is that groups aren't everything

As an example, a 1.8 Astra with 123bhp, 0-60 in 8.5 seconds is group 8 - this is a quick car. A 1.4 Rover 214 with 75bhp is also group 8 but far slower
 
PMKeates said:
Hmm, I'm not sure how they enforce a power restriction. I could only imagine it being phased in for new drivers and not retroacted, so I've nothing to worry about! :p
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I was just thinking that. If they did enforce it, they can get stuffed if they think I'd sell my car to downgrade to something slower.
 
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