[Rumour] Audi to join F1 in 2016

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Audi poised to ditch endurance racing and touring cars in favour of assault on F1 from 2016

The pre-war German domination of Formula One could soon be reborn, with Audi rumoured to be readying itself for a 2016 return to Grand Prix racing. Insiders at Audi and its parent, the Volkswagen Group, have revealed that Audi is set to abandon both Germany’s touring car championship (the DTM) and the iconic Le Mans 24 Hour race in favour of the world’s top open-wheel formula.

Insiders say it will combine its WEC and DTM budgets, plus a Red Bull sponsorship package to try to make its mark again on Grand Prix racing, an arena it hasn’t entered since the advent of the modern Formula One championship in 1950. Multiple sources have also confirmed that Audi will bow to internal Volkswagen Group pressure and leave the Le Mans and World Endurance Championship to its sister brand, Porsche.

It’s understood that Audi was close to entering F1 in 2013, and was the driving force behind the sport’s aborted plan to use four-cylinder turbocharged engines. At Audi’s urging, the FIA’s World Motor Sport Council proposed, in late in 2010, to turn F1 into a four-cylinder turbo formula. Audi backflipped on joining the sport, though, and the F1 Commission changed the engine formula to turbocharged V6. Insiders insist Audi and the Volkswagen Group have now been working on a 1.6-litre V6 turbo Formula One engine since early this year.

While it will contain the engine and electric hybrid development in-house, Audi is said to prefer buying an existing Formula One operation, rather than building up an F1 operation from scratch. Either Red Bull Racing or its Italian-based development team, Toro Rosso, are understood to be the prime targets, citing Audi’s (and Volkswagen Group chairman, Ferdinand Piech’s) historic links to Austria and its close relationship with Red Bull boss, Dietrich Mateschitz. Red Bull has long been the major sponsor of Audi’s leading team in the DTM.

Giving fuel to the Formula One leak is Audi’s hiring this month of former Ferrari Formula One team principal Stefano Domenicali. The Italian Domenicali has no experience of Le Mans-style sports cars, has no experience of touring car racing and does not even speak German. The sources are insistent that Formula One is only possible reason why Audi, which is the successor of the legendary pre-war Auto Union brand and carries its four-ringed badge, would have just hired the Italian, even under the temporary pretense of a non-racing role.

In terms of drivers Fernando Alonso, the double World Champion who is leaving Ferrari this year, is a potential target, Should he not sign with McLaren-Honda for 2015, may be forced to take a sabbatical year in 2015. Alonso has a close relationship with Domenicali, having driven for him at Ferrari for several years, and could return to his team leadership via Audi in 2016.

A successful return to the top level of motorsport by Audi could spark a head-to-head rivalry with Mercedes-Benz that has lain dormant since the beginning of WWII, with the final years before the war seeing the two state-sponsored car companies dominate racing and land-speed record runs across Europe.

Audi’s departure from Le Mans will end an extraordinary period of dominance at La Sarthe. It has won the round-the-clock classic 13 times since 2000 and was beginning to threaten Porsche’s record of 16 wins. It has been genuinely beaten just once since 2000 (by Peugeot in 2009) and became both the first marque to win Le Mans with a diesel-engined car and the first to win with a hybrid.



Read more: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/audi/89171/audi-to-join-f1-in-2016#ixzz3H51pZRis


I would be surprised if they did.
 
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VW were a keen supporter of the I4 engine plans, but were turned off once they moved to V6s. If VAG want to join F1 as an engine supplier then they could do so without having to kill off a lot of other motorsport activities. A full factory team effort would be a different matter though.
 
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Seems like they've been hit with the corporate stick in an attempt not to devalue other brands under VAG. Particularly Porsche. Pull Audi out for several years, let Porsche get a few more wins under it's belt and they'll suddenly make a comeback.
 
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Seems odd timing though. WEC sounds like a number of new manufacturers will be joining soon. Leaving as soon as the competition builds is going to look bad. People will claim Audi could only win when there was only 1 other competitor. I'd imagine the petrol heads are really looking forward to the possibility of racing Porsche, Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Ferrari, etc at Le Mans.
 
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It's a possibility.

But given VW's complete anti-F1 attitude, I'd be surprised.

They can't just pull Audi out for no reason though. That would make it glaringly obvious what they were doing. So they move Audi focus to F1.

It's like back in the day of BTCC, Vauxhall and Ford. Who won on race day determined who sold units on the weekend. I also suspect that it's one of the reasons Ford are killing the Falcon off in Australia and replacing it with the Mustang. Falcon sales would eat into Mustang sales.

I have the feeling VW are doing exactly the same thing here, only internally under the VAG group. They have a very strict hierarchy for the respective brands under the umbrella and each of them cannot encroach into the others territory. The top of the range Skoda Octavia 3.2 V6 is down on power to the VW Passat with the same engine. Even Audi, RS cars must be more powerful than S cars. Even if the S car is a class above and shares the same engine (the 5.2 v10 in the RS6 is more powerful than in the S8, same for the current 4.0 TT).

I'm actually kind of surprised. I'd have thought they'd have taken Porsche out. "Go out on a high" so to speak. "New ventures" into F1. But then Audi is close and if they take that title from Porsche? And if Porsche fail in F1? The knock the brand could take in both instances would knock a certain premium off their cars.
 
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Ah, one of these 'news reports' that really makes nothing other than claims and speculation

Audi poised to ditch endurance racing and touring cars in favour of assault on F1 from 2016

The pre-war German domination of Formula One could soon be reborn, with Audi rumoured to be readying itself for a 2016 return to Grand Prix racing.

Rumour

It’s understood that Audi was close to entering F1 in 2013, and was the driving force behind the sport’s aborted plan to use four-cylinder turbocharged engines.

Understood. Not confirmed.

At Audi’s urging, the FIA’s World Motor Sport Council proposed, in late in 2010, to turn F1 into a four-cylinder turbo formula. Audi backflipped on joining the sport, though, and the F1 Commission changed the engine formula to turbocharged V6. Insiders insist Audi and the Volkswagen Group have now been working on a 1.6-litre V6 turbo Formula One engine since early this year.

Insist. Not confirm.

While it will contain the engine and electric hybrid development in-house, Audi is said to prefer buying an existing Formula One operation, rather than building up an F1 operation from scratch. Either Red Bull Racing or its Italian-based development team, Toro Rosso, are understood to be the prime targets, citing Audi’s (and Volkswagen Group chairman, Ferdinand Piech’s) historic links to Austria and its close relationship with Red Bull boss, Dietrich Mateschitz. Red Bull has long been the major sponsor of Audi’s leading team in the DTM.

Said to prefer and understood. Not confirm.

The sources are insistent that Formula One is only possible reason why Audi, which is the successor of the legendary pre-war Auto Union brand and carries its four-ringed badge, would have just hired the Italian, even under the temporary pretense of a non-racing role.

Insist. Not confirm.

In terms of drivers Fernando Alonso, the double World Champion who is leaving Ferrari this year, is a potential target

Potential target. Same for every team.

A successful return to the top level of motorsport by Audi could spark a head-to-head rivalry with Mercedes-Benz that has lain dormant since the beginning of WWII, with the final years before the war seeing the two state-sponsored car companies dominate racing and land-speed record runs across Europe.

Could. Ironically this is one of the only points that is actually true. Should Audi return then yes, they would be racing against Mercedes.
 
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Not going to happen, they would already need to be designing the engine and having plans in place.

Miss this part by any chance?

Insiders insist Audi and the Volkswagen Group have now been working on a 1.6-litre V6 turbo Formula One engine since early this year.

Makes sense for VAG group not to compete against itself at Le Mans (and Audi have little if anything to prove after essentially winning every race since 2000)

Also makes sense they try and buy an existing team (given that they may well want to buy existing F1 skills at the same time, not sure how buying Caterham/Sauber actually benefits them, a complete re-fit factory wise plus personnel would end up costing more than buying a team much higher up the grid)

Would love to see VAG in F1 (although personally would prefer the Porsche brand), but most of the above appears to be rumours rather than actual fact
 
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