Rumour: Doom 4 Development Suspended Following Rage Disappointment

I dont see what the big deal is, i thought Rage was pretty good, mind you most of the people complaining still live with their parents and/or have no real job i.e Nerd Rage.
 
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I dont see what the big deal is, i thought Rage was pretty good, mind you most of the people complaining still live with their parents and/or have no real job i.e Nerd Rage.

Not really sure why some people are complaining to the length they are, would have been nice if a bit more attention was paid to the close up textures and gameplay expanded/refined a little more but theres nothing majorly wrong with the game itself, most of the (technical) issues are fair and squarely AMD driver fail but as usual the AMD camp would rather blame it on something else.
 
Who really knows eh?. Maybe this is a get out clause or an easy letdown for the pc gaming community from zenimax?. Carmack said it himself - console is the leading platform.


Recommended specification for Doom 4.

A gaming Console :D
 
Doom is not that big a brand anyway nowadays its been dormant far too long. Doom3 sold 3.5M units most of those were on the Xbox1 PC sold poorly & was pirated heavily.

ID should have had a separate team working on Doom4 at least 4 years ago waiting so long for Carmack to optimise IDTech5 for consoles was a big mistake. If they had targeted PC with Doom4 it could have been finished 2 years ago.

Now Bethesda are the ones calling the shots as they own ID so expect more teams to get involved like they did with Fallout series & look how that turned out on FNV :(
 
most of the (technical) issues are fair and squarely AMD driver fail but as usual the AMD camp would rather blame it on something else.

Really? last i checked on the hard ocp forums there were nvidia driver issues with the game, but as usual you would rather look through your nvidia sponsored glasses and blame only one vendor.

Do you ever tire of being a shill? Your rhetoric is getting incredibly old to say the least.
 
Really? last i checked on the hard ocp forums there were nvidia driver issues with the game, but as usual you would rather look through your nvidia sponsored glasses and blame only one vendor.

Yeah there are some nVidia driver issues but they are for the most part problems with non-mainstream setups - that I'm aware of not kept up with the discussion on hardocp. On release the game came completely apart for many mainstream AMD setups.

Do you ever tire of being a shill? Your rhetoric is getting incredibly old to say the least.

I think the evidence speaks for itself... so back down.
 
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So who knows whats going on
 
For decisions such as this only one consideration counts: Did Rage sell well? Experience shows that people whining about it once they've bought it is of no consequnce.
Personally I find it very old-school (just as Doom 3 was), but still fun in a late '90s sort of way.
Other games are far more interesting nowadays. I don't think it would attract much attention if it wasn't an ID baby.
 
Who really knows eh?. Maybe this is a get out clause or an easy letdown for the pc gaming community from zenimax?. Carmack said it himself - console is the leading platform.


Recommended specification for Doom 4.

A gaming Console :D

Actually he said all platforms were treated equally instead of the focus being primarily PC first, people seem to think his comment that PC wasn't the leading platform automatically means its the opposite and consoles were the leading platform :(

That said the heavy use of noclip does kinda throw his words in his face as thats obviously done to prevent console players getting stuck and its also painfully apparent from the texture quality issues that the main focus was on what looked good at 720p when viewed from ~6 foot on a big screen TV and not much consideration taken as to how it would look from 18 inches on a desktop monitor :(
 
I think the evidence speaks for itself... so back down.

What "evidence"? Ever since i got the updated driver ive had no issues, yet you seem to assume that any issue people with an amd card has is down to the video drivers when its obvious theres tons of other factors that could come into play. Funny how that doesnt come into your mind though, when you see a chance to do a sad little amd "bash" you take it. :rolleyes: The fact that the game couldn't even create its own cache directory should speak volumes to the fact that it had issues on launch that weren't video card specific.
 
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What "evidence"? Ever since i got the updated driver ive had no issues, yet you seem to assume that any issue people with an amd card has is down to the video drivers when its obvious theres tons of other factors that could come into play. Funny how that doesnt come into your mind though, when you see a chance to do a sad little amd "bash" you take it. :rolleyes: The fact that the game couldn't even create its own cache directory should speak volumes to the fact that it had issues on launch that weren't video card specific.

I'm technically conversant enough on both drivers and video game development to have taken quite a lot of stuff into consideration and dismissed.

AFAIK The cache directory is a throw over from the beta (the vt_ filecache cvars no longer exist post beta) and more related to when the game is loading the virtual textures from optical or other media rather than a HDD install and not actually required for proper functionality under the retail game, that it helps some people is more incidental than anything else (I suspect possible scenarios are where people have their OS drive and hence user folders on an SSD and the main game install on a mechanical HDD).
 
Lets have a look at the fixes then for the majority of the technical issues...

- Implemented workaround for AMD driver crash right after intro cinematic
on Win 7 32-bit systems.
- Disabled UBOs because they are causing animation issues with AMD drivers.
- Don't allow swap-tear to be enabled on AMD while the extension is not
exposed because it may crash.

- Using a NVIDIA graphics card on Windows XP 32-bit or XP 64-bit, you
may experience a crash or hang when changing the screen resolution in
full screen mode or switching from windowed mode to full screen mode.
This has been identified as a graphics driver problem. We have spent
significant effort trying to work around this problem and were
successful in reducing the frequency of occurrence but a driver update
is necessary to completely fix the problem. We are actively working with
NVIDIA to make a solution to this problem available as soon as possible.

- Using an AMD graphics card, you may experience black flickering
artifacts on flags, banners and zip-lines if you run in full screen
mode. This has been identified as a graphics driver problem. We are
actively working with AMD on a solution to this problem.

- Using an AMD graphics card, you may experience black grid lines on
some graphical user interface (GUI) elements like the in-game mini-map.
This has been identified as a graphics driver problem. We are actively
working with AMD on a solution to this problem. If you find the grid
lines particularly distracting, you can add the following to the RAGE
launch options in Steam as a temporary workaround.

- If you have an AMD graphics card with a dual core CPU system you may
experience severe hitching and low frame rates. This has been
identified as a driver problem. We are actively working with AMD on
a solution to this problem. As a temporary workaround you may add the
following to the RAGE launch options in Steam:

Notice any recurring words there? or maybe id are also dismissing all the other potential factors :rolleyes:
 
Who let the fan boys in, is this not about Doom 4? Can you keep your bickering out of PC games please

There is clearly driver problems which are being addressed by id and AMD

We are actively working with AMD on
a solution to this problem
.

These problems happen, to both companies. Maybe AMD more so, IDK. What does one have to gain from bashing the other manufacturer than their own preferred brand?
 
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