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Rumour: Spectre-NG, 8 Critical Vulnerabilities Detected in Intel CPUs

As much as anything I think this is a problem of Intel being complacent and sticking with what is basically small iterations of the same platform for so long - given enough time you can find obscure (or not so obscure) ways to bypass security in most platforms - if Intel had put more effort into more frequent significant updates some of these architectures would have been rendered so obsolete that security issues would have been of little note.

It often happens with just about anything if it stands still long enough. Some cases more mature products become more secure but even then sometimes it is kind of a bell shaped curve where if they are around long enough things like progress in other areas allows things to be exploited that were previously not feasible to break, etc. etc.
 
String said:
That's not what I'm saying at all, I'm comparing the expectations on Intel against the expectations on AMD and I'm pointing out that they appear to be different.

As for memory, every Intel chip I've had (and I've had a few) have required a simple toggle in the BIOS for XMP settings and away you go. Try that with Ryzen.
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I dont think any manufacturer claims >2666 without putting (OC) after it.

Personally, I have 3333Mhz C14 memory running with a single bios option on the C6H motherboard.
 
nkata said:
I dont think any manufacturer claims >2666 without putting (OC) after it.

Personally, I have 3333Mhz C14 memory running with a single bios option on the C6H motherboard.
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Though not supported it makes a bigger difference when looking at some workloads though - IIRC one of the workloads I was looking at gained around 25% performance on the 1800X when people started using faster RAM with it compared to the initial reviews. In terms of competing with Intel that faster RAM makes quite a difference to the comparison.
 
I wouldnt be to sure of that, wide open pcs would be useful in botnets and such.
Sure you might not get a lot of use from hacking a straight up gaming pc but having control over it and thousands more is dead handy if you want to launch a denial of service attack.

So yeah you should be patching your gaming boxes.
 
sideways14a said:
I wouldnt be to sure of that, wide open pcs would be useful in botnets and such.
Sure you might not get a lot of use from hacking a straight up gaming pc but having control over it and thousands more is dead handy if you want to launch a denial of service attack.

So yeah you should be patching your gaming boxes.
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I'm a bit out of the loop with it these days but a lot of botnets used to be setup to scan ports and IPs, etc. against a cocktail of vulnerabilities to try and add more zombie machines to the botnet and more recently they'd also install crypto mining malware on a percentage of the compromised machines.
 
sideways14a said:
They could do anything, this is why i laugh at gamers saying they dont need to patch.
Utter rubbish.
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Invariably Intel will roll those patches into their Intel bloatware i would imagine, anyone installing an Intel CPU and installing drivers off discs or download from Intel etc will probably end up with those patches anyhow.

This is the average man on the street, or retailers selling pre built OEM's etc, that stuffs usually riddled with all the bloatware you can find.

Bottom line is, little Steve asks dad to buy him a gaming PC, goes to local highstreet megastore retailer and buys "Random High end PC with Intel 8XXX CPU and Nvidia 1080" etc he is going to get aload of Intel stuff pre lobbed on i bet.
 
SiDeards73 said:
Bottom line is, little Steve asks dad to buy him a gaming PC, goes to local highstreet megastore retailer and buys "Random High end PC with Intel 8XXX CPU and Nvidia 1080" etc he is going to get aload of Intel stuff pre lobbed on i bet.
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It certainly sounds like he'll need it.
 
I wonder if the the hardware partitioning fixes in 8th Gen CPUs will mitigate Spectre NG or if this will require another redesign.
 
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