Running out of memory. Help. 4gb.

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I think my DDR3 ram is about to give up the ghost.
Iv used about 3.2gb of it before it gives an error but now its down to 2gb before i get low memory error.

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any ideas on whats wrong? can i change some settings so this error doesnt tab me out fallout 3? when i get tabbed out it sometimes doesnt tab back in. starting to annoy me.

My dad says he got this during spider solitaire...

Thanks


My ram http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-042-GS


when i installed my OS, i didnt get an option to say if its 64bit or 32bit. Even if its 32bit shouldn't i still get at least 3.5gig of ram?
 
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Hi marc

67 processes running. Are they all needed?

Looks like a lot auto starting, reserving memory that could be better used elsewhere.
 
What size is the paging file?

Memory available under 32 bit depends on a lot of things, could easily be less than 3.5gb. That you're not seeing the full 4gb does suggest that you've installed a 32 bit version of windows.

It's very strange that it's complaining it has no memory left when there's 850mb available, I don't know if this would be resolved with a reinstall or not.
 
32Bit windows has a secondary limitation, any single application is only permitted to reserve and use 2GB of ram, regardless of how much windows says it has. The only exception to this rule is if the application is programed to make use of PAE memory access. However in practice just about the only application to use PAE is Microsofts SQL Server.

The result of this... As soon as a single app approaches 2GB it will start running out of ram, however Windows 32bit can still make use of more (between 3 and 4GB depending on graphics card) as it can still allocate memory for other tasks (anti virus/spyware), the, all the general background tasks that make windows work (network stacks, hardware drivers etc etc).

That looks like Windows 7, doesnt it ship with 2 separate disks, and you get 32 or 64bit based on the disk you install from, there is no popup message during installation to ask if you want 32bit or 64bit.
 
Jason1973 said:
Hi marc

67 processes running. Are they all needed?

Looks like a lot auto starting, reserving memory that could be better used elsewhere.
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I have no processes running under user appart from WLM - Xfire - Steam and the current game, the rest is all system and local service. Iv set MSCONFIG to run nothing on startup. So i guess yes its all needed things :(


That looks like Windows 7, doesnt it ship with 2 separate disks, and you get 32 or 64bit based on the disk you install from, there is no popup message during installation to ask if you want 32bit or 64bit.
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I only got one disc, and nope i didnt get any pop-up message. Ill see if i can start the installation on another pc but not accual install it to see again if the message pops up. If not ill email windows about this. It does say OEM has both 32bit and 64bit right?
 
Well, I was just guessing about having more than one disk, as the beta version required downloading of either the 32bit or 64bit dvd, and I didnt think there was enough space on 1 disk for both versions. It could be they managed to squeeze both onto 1 disk, or it could be there's a slip of paper or instructions to download and burn your own 64bit disk etc etc.

Anyway if you want to confirm which you have just go to the start menu, right click on my computer, and select properties.

It will have Rating, Processor, Installed memory, System type, and Pen and Touch. System type should say 64-bit Operating System, but I am guessing yours will say 32bit as its saying 3063 total ram on your task manager.

I dont know how much ram Fallout3 is trying to use, but if it is getting close to 2GB on a 32bit system, windows will likely start to complain.
 
It seems that while the Retail version comes with both disks, the OEM copies are different, they come with 32bit OR 64bit depending on which copy you bought. However you may find that Microsoft will allow you to use your OEM Key to activate a 64bit disk within their EULA. Its probably best to contact microsoft on that, perhaps they will allow you to download the installation disk, or they may "sell" you a media pack with the 64bit disk at a reduced price.

64bit would resolve your problem, I have no doubt of that. I am convinced that there is no actual fault with your computer. Best of luck.
 
Alright i just checked again and i have the 32bit. BUT this is really confuseing me

On vista 32bit i saw 3.5gb Available when i had 4gb ddr2 ram. Now its only saying 2.99gb available.

Can somebody explain?

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Corasik said:
It seems that while the Retail version comes with both disks, the OEM copies are different, they come with 32bit OR 64bit depending on which copy you bought. However you may find that Microsoft will allow you to use your OEM Key to activate a 64bit disk within their EULA. Its probably best to contact microsoft on that, perhaps they will allow you to download the installation disk, or they may "sell" you a media pack with the 64bit disk at a reduced price.

64bit would resolve your problem, I have no doubt of that. I am convinced that there is no actual fault with your computer. Best of luck.
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I phoned microsoft and they said check with the shop i bought it from. Went back to the shop and they said to me that they only sell the 32bit ( dont ask i dunno why )...if they told me this before i wouldnt of bought it. So im going to phone up microsoft and ask for something like the media pack with reduced 64bit like you said.
Any detail in whats in a media pack?
 
marc512 said:
Alright i just checked again and i have the 32bit. BUT this is really confuseing me

On vista 32bit i saw 3.5gb Available when i had 4gb ddr2 ram. Now its only saying 2.99gb available.

Can somebody explain?
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Most likely your motherboards PCI addressing is different. I assume you changed motherboards? System spex would be helpful.
 
Yellowbeard said:
Most likely your motherboards PCI addressing is different. I assume you changed motherboards? System spex would be helpful.
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Core i5
P55 MSI GD65 Motherboard
nVidia 9800GT
WD 640GB HD
4gb Dual Channel DDR3 G.Skill ripjaw ram
is that enough?
 
bledd. said:
^^^

Maybe someone on here would be kind enough to send you a copy of their 7 x64 OEM disc, I only have retail.
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Lol iv asked a few people but everyone has retail. Not on the forum like, i doubt that would happen :P would that work? install 64bit OEM disc with the activation code i bought?
 
What was your previous motherboard?

Newer boards require a larger block of reserved memory address space than older boards. My guess is that your newer board simply has a larger address space requirement than the old board.
 
Yellowbeard said:
What was your previous motherboard?

Newer boards require a larger block of reserved memory address space than older boards. My guess is that your newer board simply has a larger address space requirement than the old board.
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pc was built from scatch, everything new
 
To ask the question a 3rd time!

You haven't removed the pagefile / virtual memory have you?

It looks like you've either disabled or limited your virtual memory size, and that's what's causing the popup to appear
 
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Phil2008 said:
High street shops really annoy me,, its like their scared of change, so a 64bit OS is a big NO NO
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High street shops shouldnt really be selling OEM's, and both the Upgrade and Retail copies of windows 7 include two disks.

Anyway Microsoft used to sell the media for 64bit vista for the price of shipping (well it was about £10). Pretty good chance they will still sell a 64bit disk for Windows 7.

Pretty sure that the OEM key will be correctly detected on the retail, and upgrade versions, or if you can get your hands on the 64bit oem disk it should activate with your 32bit key.

To be honest as the shop wont help you, I would say your best chance is with microsoft direct, and you'll be sure its 100% legit.
 
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