RX 7900 GRE

[tommybhoy]

The problem with both companies this gen is that you cannot get an upgrade over the last generation without spending more unless you already spend over £1000

My point was going AMD from Nv, Pulse XTX was <£1000, some have got them for £900(£850 after selling the game), 4080 hasn't hit anywhere near £1000.

AMD are reacting slowly, their top end are dropping price but profit trumps market share gain.

 

[Sgt_Major]

The problem with both companies this gen is that you cannot get an upgrade over the last generation without spending more unless you already spend over £1000

They tasted the COVID/MINING boom profits and just could not let them go, this is the pathetic thing about having investors, they see the profit and expect it to be maintained, it really is all just "unrealistic profit gains" greed.

 

[Joxeon]

My point was going AMD from Nv, Pulse XTX was <£1000, some have got them for £900(£850 after selling the game), 4080 hasn't hit anywhere near £1000.

AMD are reacting slowly, their top end are dropping price but profit trumps market share gain.

This is why I won't be buying either card as I can't endorse price rises on this scale, £600>£1000 in AMDs case and £650>£1200 for Nvidia

 

[Grim5]

82% of users say the 7900GRE is a dodgy GPU launch

https://twitter.com/x/status/1685883078689148929

 

[Joxeon]

82% of users say the 7900GRE is a dodgy GPU launch

https://twitter.com/x/status/1685883078689148929

I think its embarrassing more than anything that they cant get an 80CU 256 bus RDNA3 performing better than RDNA2 of the same specs other than in efficiency.

 

[JediFragger]

82% of users say the 7900GRE is a dodgy GPU launch

I went with 'Maybe'

 

[Tetras]

So they are saying this is not Navi 31 "its a visibly smaller package and square vs rectangular"

Is this a new 80 CU die then?

I find both articles confusing and unclear, since they say that the die is the same size and only the packaging has changed, but also this:

We suspect that AMD has physically removed the additional piping that was put in place to run the RX 7900 XTX's 384-bit wide memory bus, which would also explain the redesigned PCB. The RX 7900 GRE features a 256-bit wide memory bus, which is significantly narrower compared to the RX 7900 XTX. As a result, removing two MCDs worth of piping is probably how AMD shrunk Navi 31 so much.

What's particularly curious is that AMD's RX 7900 GRE specifications page lists 54 billion transistors for the new chip. The RX 7900 XTX and RX 7900 XT page meanwhile list 58 billion transistors. It could just be a typo, but clearly there's more going on behind the scenes than might otherwise be immediately apparent.

Physically altering a GPU package like AMD has done with the RX 7900 GRE isn't too difficult, but altering the die would be very unusual — that takes a lot of money and time to pull off. We cannot be sure of AMD's exact changes or the reasons for the changes. Regardless, it would be very odd for AMD to go through all this hassle for one SKU that's limited to China.

We expect this revised Navi 31 will show up in some other GPU models down the road, possibly in the RX 7800 series and/or mobile GPU equivalents. Meanwhile, Navi 32 GPUs have not yet shown up.

AMD Shrank Navi 31 in RX 7900 GRE, Smaller Than 7900 XT and XTX

Where did the extra 4 billion transistors go?

www.tomshardware.com

 

[eddyr]

I find both articles confusing and unclear, since they say that the die is the same size and only the packaging has changed, but also this:

AMD Shrank Navi 31 in RX 7900 GRE, Smaller Than 7900 XT and XTX

Where did the extra 4 billion transistors go?

www.tomshardware.com

Reads like they are overthinking it.

Fewer transistors because it has fewer active MCD.

 

[Xelene]

MLID said they managed to repackage Navi 31 chips onto a Navi 32 substrate sort of thing. It's China only; aimed at PC Bangs. In more normal times we'd call this a 7800

 

[humbug]

I find both articles confusing and unclear, since they say that the die is the same size and only the packaging has changed, but also this:

AMD Shrank Navi 31 in RX 7900 GRE, Smaller Than 7900 XT and XTX

Where did the extra 4 billion transistors go?

www.tomshardware.com

Thanks for that.

People seem to think this thing has already launched in the English speaking markets and all but appeared in shops branded as the 7900 GRE.
Hardware Unboxed are certainly behaving like its all done and dusted, despite nothing from AMD outside of Chinese markets.
I think tech jurnoes are just so desperate for content they are clutching at anything to make dodgy confused content out of.

Right now, until i see the 7900 GRE in retailers its a China only product.

 

[KompuKare]

The 7900 GRE is a total joke, its gonna be about 13% faster at best than a 6800XT, and yet the 7800XT is going to be even slower than this. Well done AMD, literally zero gains in 2.5 years and a new node and architecture.

The reason?, because they got greedy and wanted to copy Nvidia and move cards up a tier/rename them so they can charge more. For this reason alone I wont bother with AMD, if both AMD and Nvidia are going to be douche bags and greedy, I might as well have the better brand of card....

If the 7900XT had come out at $700 day one, Id have given AMD a shot, after having only had Nvidia for 15 years since my last AMD card. But they just do not want new customers it seems.

The only flaw in your plan to stick to green is that what is to stop Nvidia from pulling the same or worse next gen if they control even more of the market?

Naming? Let's not forget some other major far Eastern companies with strange colourful names now hidden by acronyms:
Lucky Goldstar (Live's Good is far more recent)
Diamond Flower International (who no longer make consumer motherboards).

 

[Raelgun]

I think its embarrassing more than anything that they cant get an 80CU 256 bus RDNA3 performing better than RDNA2 of the same specs other than in efficiency.

If it does perform like that, then it makes sense, if this is an OEM only product, then its gonna be package constrained.

If people think about it, when companies like Dell, Lenevo and HP make products, do they stick in MSI AIB cards for example?

They wouldn't, I'm not justifying this, just giving an idea behind it.

My issue, its wasted sku for a product thats been 8-9 months delayed at the time of this post, going onto a year...

 

[GhostDog1981]

This is why I won't be buying either card as I can't endorse price rises on this scale, £600>£1000 in AMDs case and £650>£1200 for Nvidia

We shall see what it’s like next gen. If gamers become even more irritating and insignificant for Nvidia I predict prices will stay the same for each tier.

 

[humbug]

80 CU's 256Bit is the same configuration as the RX 6950XT.

Even the memory if the same... is the same, if that makes any sense, the 6950XT differs from the 6900XT in that it has 18Gb/s memory IC's vs 16Gb/s, the 7900XTX has 20Gb/s IC's

The 6950XT has a 2310Mhz Boost clock, 18Gb/s IC's
The 7900XTX is 2500Mhz, 20 Gb/s IC's
The 7900XT is 2400Mhz, 20Gb/s IC's
The 7600 is 2655Mhz, 18Gb/s IC's

It should be at least as fast as the 6950XT.
Or compared to Ada it should match an RTX 4070Ti, cheapest one of those currently £769, so there is your alternative if you're not happy with £629, enjoy, its got DLSS, that's worth a £140 or 22% premium, right? Good show Nvidia....

 

[humbug]

At $649 we will not be stocking this part!

I think that would be a mistake.
You shouldn't be listening to hyperbolic Internet noise.

 

[Grim5]

I think that would be a mistake.
You shouldn't be listening to hyperbolic Internet noise.

I don't think it matters anyway since the card isn't available as DYI outside of Asia and if you want a 7900gre you'll be buying it in a prebuilt sell or some other OEM junk

 

[Gibbo]

I think that would be a mistake.
You shouldn't be listening to hyperbolic Internet noise.

I don't listen to hyperbolic noise ever, if I did we would not have anything online.

Been doing this for twenty plus years, we won't be stocking this part.

 

[Grim5]

I think that would be a mistake.
You shouldn't be listening to hyperbolic Internet noise.

The man has spoken, you'll have to buy your 7900gre elsewhere, though I'd suggest a 7900xt is a better upgrade for you if you can stretch your budget, otherwise wait for next Gen

 

[humbug]

I don't think it matters anyway since the card isn't available as DYI outside of Asia and if you want a 7900gre you'll be buying it in a prebuilt sell or some other OEM junk

It might come to the English speaking world, just not branded as GRE, 7900 or preferably 7800XT.

 

[Joxeon]

We shall see what it’s like next gen. If gamers become even more irritating and insignificant for Nvidia I predict prices will stay the same for each tier.

Let’s hope AI calms down then Nvidia will have to bring their A game if they want to maintain the same pricing.

It might come to the English speaking world, just not branded as GRE, 7900 or preferably 7800XT.

unless this is priced at £500 max then it’s pretty much DOA whatever they call it.