https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/11/how-boeing-lost-its-bearings/602188/ is a good, and quite brief article about the change in attitude at Boeing over the last few decades.
Ryanair buys 75 737 Max
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Cockpit window crack forces ANA Boeing flight in Japan to turn back
The domestic flight in Japan landed safely after the crack appeared, the airline says.
www.bbc.co.uk
Not a Max though, just a standard 737.Cockpit window crack forces ANA Boeing flight in Japan to turn back
The domestic flight in Japan landed safely after the crack appeared, the airline says.www.bbc.co.uk
Commissario
That one is IIRC not massively uncommon and a lot less worrying that it might seem, from memory they have something like 3 or 4 layers of glass and can be flown safely with just 2, or even 1 uncracked depending on where the crack is.Cockpit window crack forces ANA Boeing flight in Japan to turn back
The domestic flight in Japan landed safely after the crack appeared, the airline says.www.bbc.co.uk
there have been issues wtih them cracking in various aircraft due to things like heaters/demisters that have got slightly too hot (the temperature differential can be very high between the inner and outer glass), and there can be an issue with fitting as well.
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Daft old me thought last week would have been a great time to buy shares in Boeing whilst values dropped after the emergency landing following the door blowing out... Then this happens which will no doubt drop them furtherCockpit window crack forces ANA Boeing flight in Japan to turn back
The domestic flight in Japan landed safely after the crack appeared, the airline says.www.bbc.co.uk
Soldato
It’s not a problem inherent with Boeing but the media will jump on anything Boeing related following the door plug incident.
Just have a search on AVherald for windshield crack, it’s a common occurrence,
Soldato
This: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390 must be about the most shocking windscreen related incident to happen, and more so, when you read what led upto it happening :O
For those interested, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RSGujNq4bVM
A sorry tale of Boeing and its manufacturers. Also 2 other vids on the door worth watching.
A sorry tale of Boeing and its manufacturers. Also 2 other vids on the door worth watching.
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Well it looks like I will be flying on one from Tenerife soon
Wish me luck!
Wish me luck!
I survived my trips the week before last with no problems as I am sure many millions of other people have. Anyway Ryanair don not seem to operate the 737 Max but a 737 8200 
There was no mention of the Max part anywhere.
From a passenger point of view it was exactly the same but perhaps more light feeling in the the cabin and it was to be on two really clean new planes! I even had reasonable leg room, obviously they have newer thinner seats but we did book and sit near the front as we had an 11 month old taking up space on our laps.
On the way back I did over hear the stewardess talking with someone they knew about the plane and they were less positive as they felt the plane was less robust than the 737 800. They also said that the bathrooms leaked, the trolleys tipped over easily and the caddies and stuff in the galley were bad ergonomically with bashed knees etc I am surprised if that stuff is a backwards step for the crew as you would expect that to improve all the time!
There was no mention of the Max part anywhere.From a passenger point of view it was exactly the same but perhaps more light feeling in the the cabin and it was to be on two really clean new planes! I even had reasonable leg room, obviously they have newer thinner seats but we did book and sit near the front as we had an 11 month old taking up space on our laps.
On the way back I did over hear the stewardess talking with someone they knew about the plane and they were less positive as they felt the plane was less robust than the 737 800. They also said that the bathrooms leaked, the trolleys tipped over easily and the caddies and stuff in the galley were bad ergonomically with bashed knees etc I am surprised if that stuff is a backwards step for the crew as you would expect that to improve all the time!
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Wouldnt surprise me if Ryanair cut corners with the interior. They get to spec/choose the toilets and galleys when they place the order with Boeing.
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Yup
IIRC pretty much everything is customisable from a very large set of options so likely Ryan Air did something like went with the cheapest/smallest galley especially as IIRC Ryanair don't really do meals so skimping on that in order to save a bit or get some extra booze in to sell would be in keeping.
Although the leaking toilets is almost certainly just bad fitting or maintenance on them.
Soldato
I survived my trips the week before last with no problems as I am sure many millions of other people have. Anyway Ryanair don not seem to operate the 737 Max but a 737 8200
From a passenger point of view it was exactly the same but perhaps more light feeling in the the cabin and it was to be on two really clean new planes! I even had reasonable leg room, obviously they have newer thinner seats but we did book and sit near the front as we had an 11 month old taking up space on our laps.
On the way back I did over hear the stewardess talking with someone they knew about the plane and they were less positive as they felt the plane was less robust than the 737 800. They also said that the bathrooms leaked, the trolleys tipped over easily and the caddies and stuff in the galley were bad ergonomically with bashed knees etc I am surprised if that stuff is a backwards step for the crew as you would expect that to improve all the time!
The 737-8200 is a Max, a Max 8 with a high seating density to be precise.
The problem is people expect cheap flights.. Supply and demand.
The likes of Ryan Air are a symptom of the problem rather than the cause.
They operate almost like a bus service, except if the bus gets a punctured tyre it's an inconvenience... It's a bit more of an inconvenience at 20000 feet in the air at 400mph.
The likes of Ryan Air are a symptom of the problem rather than the cause.
They operate almost like a bus service, except if the bus gets a punctured tyre it's an inconvenience... It's a bit more of an inconvenience at 20000 feet in the air at 400mph.
Despite their budget image and at times appalling customer service, Ryanair are well known within the airline industry for the high quality of their training and aircraft maintenance.
Caporegime
100% on brand for Ryanair to buy a plane that's now known to be plagued with potentially lethal flaws.
Can I have your stuff?
Very true. Say anything about them except they dont cut corners on safety. Never lost a passenger.
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I survived.
Plane wasn't too bad. Better than the older one we flew out on
Plane wasn't too bad. Better than the older one we flew out on