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Ryzen 2 Overall system / memory stability

That's not evidence of anything. What is the speed on all cores under sustained load?

I could show an 1800X runs 4.1ghz on every core at some point or other.

Then all you had to do was scroll down to my post https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/31792454 .
Not just 4.2Ghz, but 4.225Ghz. In fact earlier on this week i posted an all core 4.3Ghz bench on the same set up. That clock has now run 24 hours of Prime blend since then. So stop talking crap about something you clearly know little or nothing about.

To the OP, 4 sticks of B-die will run fine and will actually run up to 3333mhz C14 no problem. In my case on a CH6 using "The Stilts" timmings" the only change needed to his timmings when running 4 sticks of ram is to move trc to auto. This is because trc always needs to be higher with 4 sticks than it does with 2.
 
Only because with a 2700x you get more options that get more out of the CPU automatically.

Core Performance boost for example is not an option I have on my Prime Pro x370. And from what I've read it will automatically pushes the frequency up by 200MHz temp allowing.

Not sure how true this is as it still might be tempt limited but the option to enable Core Performance boost (level 2) is not on my board.

I get 4GHz presently. With Core Performance boost set to level 2 I'd get 4.2GHz all cores automatically.

Some one else with a CH7 or even a CH6 (if they backported it) can tell us if this is the case.

So many acronyms and terms, I assume you're on about PBO? or is there some other vendor based features that auto boost / overclock more than XFR2 and PB2?

I didn't mean for this to turn in to a spec me sort of thread but PBO does look good, though the Strix has all the features I need so £60 just for a (potential) 200Mhz bump seems a lot.

To the OP, 4 sticks of B-die will run fine and will actually run up to 3333mhz C14 no problem. In my case on a CH6 using "The Stilts" timmings" the only change needed to his timmings when running 4 sticks of ram is to move trc to auto. This is because trc always needs to be higher with 4 sticks than it does with 2.

Thanks :) I know about The Stilts timings but it utterly confused me so I left haha but it is something I need to look in to more so I can understand it but I shall keep it in mind about the trc value.
 
So many acronyms and terms, I assume you're on about PBO? or is there some other vendor based features that auto boost / overclock more than XFR2 and PB2?

I didn't mean for this to turn in to a spec me sort of thread but PBO does look good, though the Strix has all the features I need so £60 just for a (potential) 200Mhz bump seems a lot.



Thanks :) I know about The Stilts timings but it utterly confused me so I left haha but it is something I need to look in to more so I can understand it but I shall keep it in mind about the trc value.

Yes I know it's all very confusing. Core Performance boost is not Precision boost Override.

Have a read of this article.

Like I said, if I was buying an X470 board and I wasn't constrained by budget I'd buy a CH7.

It's actually about £40 more expensive than the board your currently looking at. ;)
 
Yes I know it's all very confusing. Core Performance boost is not Precision boost Override.

Have a read of this article.

Like I said, if I was buying an X470 board and I wasn't constrained by budget I'd buy a CH7.

It's actually about £40 more expensive than the board your currently looking at. ;)

Oh derp! I read that article before but didn't see any mention of Core Performance boost but only just realised there are several pages to that HardOCP article. So reading the full article, Core Performance Boost is just Asus terminology for XFR and PB and that level 2 is still a level as set by AMD where 3 and 4 are overclocks above AMD specification. So it is interesting that you don't have the option for level 2 as you would think, being AMD specified, all AM4 boards would offer it (or at least the x boards, I can understand holding back on the B or A boards). Maybe it is X470 only feature which is why it isn't available on your X370? I guess I'll need to do some research as to the BIOS options of the Strix as I'll be cooling it with an Noctua NH-D15 so there should be reasonable headroom temperature wise for boosting.

I'll have to look in to the prices, A quick search after reading your post I only found 2 places cheaper than OCUK for the CH7 but one I've not heard of the one and the other I refuse to shop with due to their terrible customer service.
 
Yes I know it's all very confusing. Core Performance boost is not Precision boost Override.

Have a read of this article.

Like I said, if I was buying an X470 board and I wasn't constrained by budget I'd buy a CH7.

It's actually about £40 more expensive than the board your currently looking at. ;)

Opeth is there a definitive answer on the X470 boards, which are defacto the best for pushing your 2700X etc at stock settings and letting the features do the Ocing for you? and also delivering the best power and thermals?

I have a CH6, considering moving to a 2700X and a CH7, havent really looked at the motherboards as im told CH6 is still more than capable, but i fancy the Astock Taichi Ultimate, i had the X370 Taichi and sold it as the BIOS support was vastly inferior to the CH6, but i love the look of the new X470 Taichi, just wondering how they stack up against the CH7 and other X470's now.
 
Opeth is there a definitive answer on the X470 boards, which are defacto the best for pushing your 2700X etc at stock settings and letting the features do the Ocing for you? and also delivering the best power and thermals?

I have a CH6, considering moving to a 2700X and a CH7, havent really looked at the motherboards as im told CH6 is still more than capable, but i fancy the Astock Taichi Ultimate, i had the X370 Taichi and sold it as the BIOS support was vastly inferior to the CH6, but i love the look of the new X470 Taichi, just wondering how they stack up against the CH7 and other X470's now.

I wouldn't know sorry.

It's just that from my experience with the Prime Pro x370 there are features missing from this board I would like to try with my 2700x plus I've had such issues with my ram I kind of think did I just skimp out on the mobo when I should have just gone for a CH6 or CH7 (if buying new).

For example the Stilts memory profiles are built right in to the CH6 (and probably the 7's bios.)

I know 8 Pack rates the Taichi's but I don't like the look of the BIOS compared to Asus.
 
PBO is not supposed to be supported on x370 boards as it's something new for x470 (even though it's CPU thing). I'm surprised that CH6 actually has "enhanced mode", not surprised that other low cost mobos don't.
 
I wouldn't know sorry.

It's just that from my experience with the Prime Pro x370 there are features missing from this board I would like to try with my 2700x plus I've had such issues with my ram I kind of think did I just skimp out on the mobo when I should have just gone for a CH6 or CH7 (if buying new).

For example the Stilts memory profiles are built right in to the CH6 (and probably the 7's bios.)

I know 8 Pack rates the Taichi's but I don't like the look of the BIOS compared to Asus.

I have to agree, thats why i only bought the CH6 and the Taichi as they were both stated to be top end X370, im guessing the same again this time round. I have reservations about Asrock BIOS Support though.

I have an ASrock mobo with my 2500K For many years and it was awesome, but the Ryzen stuff is very sensitive to memory etc, so BIOS upgrades are essential, thats about the only thing holding me back from going to 2700X and X470 right now.
 
Opeth is there a definitive answer on the X470 boards, which are defacto the best for pushing your 2700X etc at stock settings and letting the features do the Ocing for you? and also delivering the best power and thermals?

With regards to the latter part of that question, the Asus CH7 is looking mighty strong in the VRM department:


Unless something amazing shows up at the Z490 announce in a couple of months, then I'll probably be getting a CH7 myself. It looks built with the next gen in mind :)
 
I wouldn't touch an Intel build at the moment, At least not until we know where things stand with the new Spectre bugs & patches. If you can I'd wait a few weeks before committing.
 
At the moment the rumour mill suggests X490 will bring an additional 8 PCIE lanes to the chipset, and possibly bring them upto PCIE 3.0...

I mean, that would be nice... to me that's an extra couple of full-speed m.2 drives, but maybe the other option is triple GPU setups?

Price could start to get scary though. The CH7 looks good, but it's already more than the cost of a mid-range CPU. At this rate there's a real danger than an 8700k and a 'competent' board could work out the cheaper option. And they already have extra lanes do they not? :S
 
I mean, that would be nice... to me that's an extra couple of full-speed m.2 drives, but maybe the other option is triple GPU setups?

Price could start to get scary though. The CH7 looks good, but it's already more than the cost of a mid-range CPU. At this rate there's a real danger than an 8700k and a 'competent' board could work out the cheaper option. And they already have extra lanes do they not? :S

Both have x16 Gen3 for the graphics, Coffeelake has +4 PCIE on the chipset, Ryzen has +4 PCIE on the CPU.

I always buy highend motherboards, mainly for the bios options and enthusiast support. The motherboard forms the backbone of the PC through which everthing else connects, no brainer.
 
Both have x16 Gen3 for the graphics, Coffeelake has +4 PCIE on the chipset, Ryzen has +4 PCIE on the CPU.
This is what makes me think its better to go into the bottom end of x299/c422 and x399 than hit the top of the AM4 and S1151 platform - there's just no room to grow or upgrade beyond a midlife CPU upgrade. HEDT platforms tend to be longer lived too.
 
This is what makes me think its better to go into the bottom end of x299/c422 and x399 than hit the top of the AM4 and S1151 platform - there's just no room to grow or upgrade beyond a midlife CPU upgrade. HEDT platforms tend to be longer lived too.

AMD didn't hide the fact thread ripper had the best binned chips and a lot of people were running 4.1ghz with 4 sticks at 3466hz... Leads the question how 2nd Gen will do in Q4
 
PBO is also on the Prime Pro X370.

What isn't is the ability to choose the Core Performance boost level. That was the feature I was looking for.

By the sounds of it it would push out a little bit more performance from my 2700x.
 
Hows your 2700X running now Opeth? still issues with Ram etc? hows it feel versus your previous Ryzen rig?

Yes. Big issues with my ram. I've spent the last month trying to get it stable at 3200MHz with no luck.

I would with fiddling get it to pass HCI memtests but it would always eventually freeze in games.


As for the CPU it's self. I like the 2700x. It boosts all core to 4GHz which is very nice.

But it wasn't really worth the upgrade from a 1700 @ 3.8GHz. The only reason why I made the upgrade was because I got fed up of my old corsair ram not being able to achieve it's rated speed.

Problem is I replaced it with ram that made the situation worse.

As soon as I put the new ram in, not only was I getting freezing whilst gaming, it also made my previous OC unstable. I needed more voltage to achive the same clock speed.

So I thought I'd fix all these issues with a 2700x. But alas the freezing remained.

I sent it back for RMA.

I wasn't having any of these issues prior to this ram so fingers crossed I just got unlucky and new sticks will be fine.
 
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