Ryzen "2" ?

HeX · 5 May 2018 at 00:29

opethdisciple said:
Really running out of ideas what to do.

I thought finally I had the ram stable. It passes 400% HCI. I gamed a little last night no issues. Now Wolfenstein is freezing up on me.

I'm using DOCP 1.4v and procODT 53.3.

There is nothing else for me to try. I've done everything I can to make this stable.

Is it possible I have faulty ram? Or is it my mobo?

Am I entitled to send the ram back if it isnt stable at DOCP?

I'm tempted to buy a CH7 but then if I still have the same issues....

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What could it be?

CPU stock. Ram DOCP with ProcODT set.

It passes HCI 400% but not stable in games.

Something else needs to be tweaked.

Go into bios and disable C6 state. People have been reporting lockups and stuttering while having it enabled on that board. Might be rhat causing the issues rather than the memory.

opethdisciple · 5 May 2018 at 00:41

HeX said:
Go into bios and disable C6 state. People have been reporting lockups and stuttering while having it enabled on that board. Might be rhat causing the issues rather than the memory.

What does C6 do?

I use the Ryzen power profile. Could this be related?

yashiro · 5 May 2018 at 02:10

There is currently an open bug on Linux that points to C-states soft locking the OS during idle/power switching. It may turn out to not be OS related but a chipset/cpu flaw.

I doubt it has anything to do with locking up on Wolfenstein on Windows 10 with your overclocked ram. There's no harm in turning it off on your motherboard like someone suggested though.

freddy855 · 5 May 2018 at 09:09

Strange, was sure it was gonna clock to 4ghz. not 3925 and 3950.... and bost thing is only 4.1 not 4,3. other test i see over 1800 on Cinebench.

4K8KW10 said:
It's kind of normal, others get similar results, too.

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https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-cpu-review-overclock-benchmarks-leak/

I think you should see carefully all BIOS settings and optimise it by apply and try.

Yes, done some xperiementing With no Luck, no mather what i doo it wont boost to 4.3 on one core. The best i have manage is overclocing it to 4.250 on all core needing a lot of voltage (1.4625). Not happy.

freddy855 · 5 May 2018 at 09:31

And to get 4.275 i had to og to 1.55v. lol. "prob" to high voltage
but not stable

chroniclard · 5 May 2018 at 09:38

1700cb is pretty low. I would reset the bios to defaults and start over. Out the box mine did over 4k all core and 4350 boost.

Also check your RAM is actually running at decent speeds, sometimes if it cant set it properly it defaults to really low speeds.

Hagar · 5 May 2018 at 09:39

freddy855 said:
And to get 4.275 i had to og to 1.55v. lol. "prob" to high voltage
but not stable

What is your cooling like? The best ryzen results I have seen have been with good cooling solutions.

freddy855 · 5 May 2018 at 10:27

chroniclard said:
1700cb is pretty low. I would reset the bios to defaults and start over. Out the box mine did over 4k all core and 4350 boost.

Also check your RAM is actually running at decent speeds, sometimes if it cant set it properly it defaults to really low speeds.

Tried that, problem is that when Stock no overclock it wont boost to 4.3 but only 4.2 occasionally and during benching whit all cores it only get 3925.

Ram is running good in rated speed, get good scores in Aida64 ram test

freddy855 · 5 May 2018 at 10:33

nkata said:
What is your cooling like? The best ryzen results I have seen have been with good cooling solutions.

Be quiet silent loop 280

4K8KW10 · 5 May 2018 at 10:58

freddy855 said:
Strange, was sure it was gonna clock to 4ghz. not 3925 and 3950.... and bost thing is only 4.1 not 4,3. other test i see over 1800 on Cinebench.

Yes, done some xperiementing With no Luck, no mather what i doo it wont boost to 4.3 on one core. The best i have manage is overclocing it to 4.250 on all core needing a lot of voltage (1.4625). Not happy.

It's either not good contact with the cooler, or the CPU, or the motherboard, or something wrong with the Windows.
Try RMA the CPU and/or the motherboard, and replace them with new ones?

MasterOC · 5 May 2018 at 11:08

So my head hurts .... thought i had 4.1 running "stable" ... obviously not ... currently at 4ghz @ 1.35v slowely pulling back on the voltage after each stability test ... LLC on high , and upto 1.4v will.not stabalise at 4.1 ... now what the hell is the new fid and clock ratio stuff about ... x99 this is not thats for sure ... any ideas on hpw to drop the voltage but keep 4.1 ? 2700 here no x

Warranty_V0id · 5 May 2018 at 12:30

XFR and Performance Enhancer seem to be way to go rather than old school overclocking with the new Ryzen chips.

opethdisciple · 5 May 2018 at 12:42

Regarding my ram freezes, I've switched to the high performance windows power plan just in case it helps.

If these issues persist I'll try disabling this C6 thing in the bios.

The ram is passing HCI. I tested it last night.

ltron · 5 May 2018 at 14:01

opethdisciple said:
Regarding my ram freezes, I've switched to the high performance windows power plan just in case it helps.

If these issues persist I'll try disabling this C6 thing in the bios.

The ram is passing HCI. I tested it last night.

When I had my faulty Asus X99 Sabertooth, disabling C states would get rid of the random hard locks with no error message I was suffering from even at stock. However, it would still BSOD with C States disabled when running SiSoftware Sandra benchmarks despite passing all stability stress tests and RAM tests. My Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion using exactly the same components works fine with C states enabled at stock or overclocked and does not BSOD in Sandra.

I've come to the conclusion that a faulty motherboard is a likely cause in these hard to diagnose cases if all stress tests pass. It was an absolute nightmare though and the motherboard was the last thing I swapped.

nashathedog · 5 May 2018 at 14:37

Zeed · 5 May 2018 at 17:06

nkata said:
What is your cooling like? The best ryzen results I have seen have been with good cooling solutions.

Cooling got nothing to do with it. Had a play on my system today not full yet but. [email protected] 1.381 lowest under load.
To get estra 25mhz need over 1.45 not worth it. Basically 4.25x8 is best u can get on sensible volts on best chips. Thats the limit of Zen+

kitfit1 · 5 May 2018 at 18:24

Zeed said:
Cooling got nothing to do with it. Had a play on my system today not full yet but. [email protected] 1.381 lowest under load.
To get estra 25mhz need over 1.45 not worth it. Basically 4.25x8 is best u can get on sensible volts on best chips. Thats the limit of Zen+

I think cooling certainly has something to do with things Zeed

I ran Realbench for a 15min stress earlier and the highest temps i saw were 77c. That's with this for cooling https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...-liquid-cooling-upgrade-bundle-bu-098-tl.html
The same clock you have as it happens, just on lower Vcore

It's moved on a bit since then as well but until i'm certain it's stable, i'll hold off for the moment.

Zeed · 5 May 2018 at 20:00

kitfit1 said:
I think cooling certainly has something to do with things Zeed
I ran Realbench for a 15min stress earlier and the highest temps i saw were 77c. That's with this for cooling https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...-liquid-cooling-upgrade-bundle-bu-098-tl.html
The same clock you have as it happens, just on lower Vcore It's moved on a bit since then as well but until i'm certain it's stable, i'll hold off for the moment.

0nly 1 step lower i see 1.375 vs mine 1.381

Now after tim melted ran some ibss today even tho its hotter o maxed out 68c :]
Not looket how much lower can i go with volts. Will chec soon. First will have a play with p0 voltage setting. Changed from 1.22 to 1.35 but i think i change it to 1.4 and change offset from 0.075 to 0.025 cause i can haha

Get that phase cooling out of garage haha.

opethdisciple · 5 May 2018 at 20:47

ltron said:
When I had my faulty Asus X99 Sabertooth, disabling C states would get rid of the random hard locks with no error message I was suffering from even at stock. However, it would still BSOD with C States disabled when running SiSoftware Sandra benchmarks despite passing all stability stress tests and RAM tests. My Gigabyte X99 SOC Champion using exactly the same components works fine with C states enabled at stock or overclocked and does not BSOD in Sandra.

I've come to the conclusion that a faulty motherboard is a likely cause in these hard to diagnose cases if all stress tests pass. It was an absolute nightmare though and the motherboard was the last thing I swapped.

But it all started as soon as I put in this 8 Pack ram.

I had a 1700 and Corsair ram before this since launch. And I didn't have any of these issues. I put in the 8 Pack ram as I wanted 3200MHz on the ram and since then (1 month so far) I simply have not found stability.

I've even upgraded to a 2700x in the mean time and the story continues.

Either I have faulty ram or the ram isn't faulty nor is the mobo it's just that 3200MHz is a too much for the mobo to run the ram 24/7 stable.

It's really horrible when you have an unstable pc. Every second anticipating/expecting the PC to freeze saps the joy out of using it.

Currently the ram is stable running HCI. Only thing I changed last night after my freezing was the power profile to high performance.

If it doesn't make a difference :

1. I run it lower than 3200MHz and see if stable. But then what was the point in selling my corsair (3066MHz) and buying the 8 pack stuff if it cant run at 3200MHz.
2. Return ram as not fit for purpose. (bin only)
3. Upgrade to a CH7. This might not even solve the issue. And just throwing money down the drain.
4. Try this c6 thing.

Vakas · 5 May 2018 at 20:56

Anyone had any issues installing chipset drivers from AMD's site?

When I download and extact the driver nothing happens and setup does not begin....