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Ryzen 5000 crashes - anyone getting them?

mikehhhhhhh said:
Yes, I would get them on my 5800x.

I was always convinced it was my Ram config, but the crashses have gone away since I got a 5900x.

I've since raised an RMA request.
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I also got some random crashes with my 5800x, though usually after I did manual tweaking of the PBO, even after I set it back to defaults. It was really strange.

Regardless of whether AMD think 1.5v is 'ok', my personal theory is that the 5800x has too high PBO power assignments and in these bursts of high voltage it creates instability in what is already a hot CPU. Maybe many people's cooling can't handle those sudden spikes.
 
Richdog said:
I also got some random crashes with my 5800x, though usually after I did manual tweaking of the PBO, even after I set it back to defaults. It was really strange.

Regardless of whether AMD think 1.5v is 'ok', my personal theory is that the 5800x has too high PBO power assignments and in these bursts of high voltage it creates instability in what is already a hot CPU. Maybe many people's cooling can't handle those sudden spikes.
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I initially ran mine with a Corsair H100 platinum and I've since replaced it with a Galahad 360 which maintains 26-30c idle and maxes out a 65-70c on the 5800x.

I did think it was odd that the 5800x has the same power limits as a 5900x though.
 
mikehhhhhhh said:
I initially ran mine with a Corsair H100 platinum and I've since replaced it with a Galahad 360 which maintains 26-30c idle and maxes out a 65-70c on the 5800x.

I did think it was odd that the 5800x has the same power limits as a 5900x though.
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Yeah. I will switch to a 5900x soon as I still have an order for MSRP. I'll then sell my 5800x.

bulldog147 said:
AMD knew of the 4000/5000 series CPU has issues but keep it quiet about it and should NOT HAVE SOLD IT until fix the issues out. I would avoid AMD at all cost!
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Hello Mr. Conspiracy Theorist. :D
 
I was wondering how many peoples for 4000/5000 series out of the box fail unstable in stock default CPU speed (non overclocked) running prime 95 or running cinebench and crashed pc?
 
bulldog147 said:
AMD knew of the 4000/5000 series CPU has issues but keep it quiet about it and should NOT HAVE SOLD IT until fix the issues out. I would avoid AMD at all cost!
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That's a but silly, we should all avoid Intel too for trying to Scam us by pushing crap & insanely expensive Rambus Direct 20 years ago.
 
Jesus. Well if anyone has to do a return which absolutely requires a box, I'll sacrifice mine.

That aside the article was interesting: they claim to have only ever had a single Intel CPU be DOA, which is more in line with what I've experienced in the past than the circa 2% Zen 3 failure rate that's being suggested by other system builders.
 
bulldog147 said:
I was wondering how many peoples for 4000/5000 series out of the box fail unstable in stock default CPU speed (non overclocked) running prime 95 or running cinebench and crashed pc?
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No crashes here mate - just ran small fft and big fft and blend, all stable with 5950x on PBO boosting 4.4ghz all core and 5.2ghz single core :D:D:D
 
Anecdotal evidence about a single system working is pointless.
We know that the vast majority of systems are working, the questions are whether there are a significant number with issues and what those are.
 
I've been having issues with my 5950X crashing on idle and low threaded tasks, but working fine on stressful high core count tasks. It'd always show WHEA Cache Hierarchy errors in the event viewer. I figured it was low voltages so I 'lowered' the negative offsets in the core optimiser but still had issues with crashing. I also tried a positive offset on the core being show in the error logs but it still crashed. I then tried RAM settings with no change. I tried raising the SOC voltage but no change. I tried changing the LLC settings on both the VCore and the SOC voltage with no changes. I made sure my power profile was set to balanced.
I confirmed that the issue didn't occur when setting my BIOS back to stock settings so I knew it was more likely to be a bios issue. HWInfo64 was showing the occasional dips in Voltage to 0.2V on some cores which further validated my theory.
Whilst it's only been 3 days, I disabled Global C-State Control and have since had no issues. Sure idle voltage is a bit higher, sitting at around 1V most of the time rather than 0.9 but that's a small price to pay for stability and confidence that my CPU isn't faulty.
My motherboard is the AsRock AQUA.
 
I’m getting these. It does seem to occur when idling or when do something as harmless as open a program or tab. No blue screen of death.

What I will say is that it was solid as a rock when I was on one motherboard, I’ve now switched out and only now I’m getting the issue. The old motherboard was on a new 1.2.0.0 bios... this one is not.

I’ve now turned off XMP to see if it persists even then.
 
Fatpizza said:
I've been having issues with my 5950X crashing on idle and low threaded tasks, but working fine on stressful high core count tasks. It'd always show WHEA Cache Hierarchy errors in the event viewer. I figured it was low voltages so I 'lowered' the negative offsets in the core optimiser but still had issues with crashing. I also tried a positive offset on the core being show in the error logs but it still crashed. I then tried RAM settings with no change. I tried raising the SOC voltage but no change. I tried changing the LLC settings on both the VCore and the SOC voltage with no changes. I made sure my power profile was set to balanced.
I confirmed that the issue didn't occur when setting my BIOS back to stock settings so I knew it was more likely to be a bios issue. HWInfo64 was showing the occasional dips in Voltage to 0.2V on some cores which further validated my theory.
Whilst it's only been 3 days, I disabled Global C-State Control and have since had no issues. Sure idle voltage is a bit higher, sitting at around 1V most of the time rather than 0.9 but that's a small price to pay for stability and confidence that my CPU isn't faulty.
My motherboard is the AsRock AQUA.
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Do you have same issues without curve optimiser enabled?
 
muziqaz said:
Do you have same issues without curve optimiser enabled?
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I can't actually remember if I tried it with PBO on but the curve optimiser off. As I said before I know stock settings worked fine.
I also don't know if it's normal for a Ryzen CPU core to randomly drop down to 0.2V.
 
Fatpizza said:
I've been having issues with my 5950X crashing on idle and low threaded tasks, but working fine on stressful high core count tasks. It'd always show WHEA Cache Hierarchy errors in the event viewer. I figured it was low voltages so I 'lowered' the negative offsets in the core optimiser but still had issues with crashing. I also tried a positive offset on the core being show in the error logs but it still crashed. I then tried RAM settings with no change. I tried raising the SOC voltage but no change. I tried changing the LLC settings on both the VCore and the SOC voltage with no changes. I made sure my power profile was set to balanced.
I confirmed that the issue didn't occur when setting my BIOS back to stock settings so I knew it was more likely to be a bios issue. HWInfo64 was showing the occasional dips in Voltage to 0.2V on some cores which further validated my theory.
Whilst it's only been 3 days, I disabled Global C-State Control and have since had no issues. Sure idle voltage is a bit higher, sitting at around 1V most of the time rather than 0.9 but that's a small price to pay for stability and confidence that my CPU isn't faulty.
My motherboard is the AsRock AQUA.
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I had exact same issue with 5900X and found I had to set +5 all core on curve to prevent BSOD while idle. I've since raised RMA with AMD.
 
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