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RYZEN 5000 SERIES NOW ONLINE - 5950X, 5900X, 5800X & 5600X COMING NOV 5TH AT 5PM **NO COMPETITORS**
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You mean the little "e:" I put in when I add something to a post? That's pretty normal, isn't it? Lots of people do that.
You must be very easily entertained!
Soldato
How about under £250 for a 6 core Ryzen 5?
What I don't get is why you are desperately defending bad pricing? How does it benefit you?
No I won't pay more than £3.50 for a 1024-core Ryzen 25. And I want it delivered by the Jamaican women's bob sleigh team, on the 30th of February 2021.
There, now you have something ridiculous to quote that I really did say
But I know it's more fun for you to just make things up and have imaginary conversations with people in your head, isn't it?Corporate Stockholm syndrome. It needs its own name really. The more they get bent over the more they love it.
Soldato
It's because there has been a considerable regression in the price/performance at the low end? If we go by AMDs numbers, the value proposition is considerably worse than last gen. You know this already.
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Caporegime
It shows you many who were attacking Intel and Nvidia pushing up pricing only cared because it wasn't AMD doing it. They are no different than the people justifying Intel and Nvidia doing it. We saw how that worked out with GPUs.
Or maybe it’s because Intel offered 1-2% every gen with 5-10% price increases, and pretty much still do. I just laugh at Nvidia prices generally, definitely in the Uber end of the market.
Caporegime
I don't care who they are. When all of them are behind they become nice and offer extras. When they are ahead all do the same because the money men start making the orders. I remember how AMD back in the Athlon 64 days pushed pricing up,plus did stuff like Socket 754 and QuadFX which were bifurcated short term platforms. Before that they were all about price/performance and longterm platforms.
Then we had all the people who justfied Nvidia price rises,and then when AMD joined in,it was OK because Nvidia did it. I have gone with AMD because I don't like the tactics Nvidia and Intel are doing. If AMD are going to join in then they are the same for me.YMMV. Like with Intel and Nvidia,their fans can fall on their swords.
Soldato
I agree for those on a 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen especially. The 5600x is the only one that's a tiny bit pricey for 6core but it's going to outperform any 3rd gen in games and perform close to an 8core 3rd gen 3000series in multi thread anyway. In that case getting a 3rd gen 3700x or something isn't really worth it. People just think oh no its only 6 cores..but it's 6 bloody fast cores.
Soldato
It doesn't for me, and it is objectively worse value than the 3000 series at the 6 and 8 core level.
Maybe, but you need to keep in mind AMD are operating with considerably lower margins than Intel and Nvidia and at some AMD will have to enter the high end graphics market. AMD will also have to do something about Intels off roadmap business and god knows what that looks like.
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Soldato
Forum members should be able to order 30 minutes early.
Aren't AMD actually making a lot better margins with their CPUs than Intel?
Soldato
I doubt it. Intel are running 10 year old tech that more than paid back it's R&D costs years ago. I have no doubt that AMD are making a profit, which is more than they were doing 5 years ago. They are also pumping money into R&D and have been for the last 4 years or so.
The proper profit margins will come for AMD, probably with Ryzen 4 onwards.
I keep hearing that the chiplet design means Zen costs a lot less to make then Intel's chips.
Due a cpu upgrade.