My point was that the pound has been rising since these listings were posted. If the prices were good when it was originally posted, assuming they hadn't bought the stock then, it's only gotten better. Thus leaving profit as the reason for price hikes.
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My point was that the pound has been rising since these listings were posted. If the prices were good when it was originally posted, assuming they hadn't bought the stock then, it's only gotten better. Thus leaving profit as the reason for price hikes.
Yeah, that's ridiculous. Annoyingly, it will now mean I try and buy two different SKUs and cancel/sell the one I don't want after the reviews are out which, if I'm successful, means depriving someone else of an option to buy one on release day.
Just report him to ebay, re-selling preorders is against their terms and conditions.
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Everyone is entitled to spend their own money how they would like, and I fully understand that many people have huge amounts of disposable income. However, think how dangerous it is if everyone thinks that way. It will make RRP pointless and just turn every release into a bidding war between shops to see who can scalp the most and just how much they can push people to spend. Afterall if you feel that way, what happens if there are enough people willing to spend more than you are to buy up the stock of whatever you want? Pretty soon you too would be priced out of any release day sales.
Not a dig, I'm interested in your thoughts as to how to avoid it snowballing
I guess the real issue is that being under an NDA legally prevents you from saying you are under an NDA and when that NDA you aren't under expires. Then AMD chose not to tell anyone either, so it all becomes a secret. This is one thing Nvidia did right, they full on told everyone well in advance that reviews would be out two days before their product. Not sure how Intel behave, its probably appropriate to compare apples to apples and cpu's to cpu's in terms of release behaviour. I've not followed Intel releases with a view to a day 1 purchase since Sandybridge so I don't know what they do regards review embargos.
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Thanks+++ really appreciate that. The choices (and decisions to make!) are overwhelming.And there is that uncomfortable thing called budget limitations ha ha. But, from your reply, it sounds like I'm not too far off track. The truth is I think, that comign from my old H530 it will feel like I've been reborn even if I stick at current spec. Cockos Reaper DAW is v light on resources, I'm only doing rock and roll so not too many tracks and plugins and I think the new build won't even blink. Condor Soaring is light end of VR also. Its MS Flight Sim (VR) that looks to need a hot PC for future proofing most. And it questionable how involved I'd get with power flying anyway as cross country gliding is my thing and gliders lead much simpler lives ha ha.
- LANCOOL II MESH PERFORMANCE MIDI-TOWER CASE - BLACK - PC Case is always personal choice, i prefer Phantek stuff personally, its probably the best case manufacturer on the market in my opinion.
- Seasonic Focus GX 650W Power Supply, Full Modular, 80 Plus Gold, 90% Efficiency, Cable-Free Connection, Hybrid Silent Fan Control, 10 Years Warranty, Power and Performance | Black - Cant see any issues with this.
- ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI) (AMD AM4) B550 ATX MOTHERBOARD - Beware the Asus Tax and the ROG Tax ontop of this, with that said i use X570 and i have not kept up to date with B series motherboards, i do remember buying a B450 Gaming Pro Carbon for my kids build and it being solid, and my brother had a Tomahawk again which was solid.
- RYZEN 7 5800X EIGHT CORE 4.7GHZ (SOCKET AM4) PROCESSOR - RETAIL - Potentially pump the extra £90 for the 5900X, if you upgrade rarely, this will get you more mileage, ps OCUK are not the cheapest for this CPU by a long shot.
- Scythe Scmg 5PCGH CPU Cooler Mugen 5 PCGH Edition - Personal choice but i feel AIO's are better, quieter and look nicer
- VENGEANCE LPX BLACK 32GB (2X16GB) 3200 MHZ AMD RYZEN TUNED DDR4 MEMORY DUAL KIT - Try and get C16 3600MHZ Ram for Ryzen, its the sweetspot and you will get a lot more performance from the system over 3200mhz
- GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER GAMING X 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-EXPRESS GRAPHICS CARD - Nvidia have new cards, AMD have new cards, dont buy a last gen card right now, they are overpriced for the performance they now offer.
- Crucial P1 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-E 3.0 X4 NVME SOLID STATE DRIVE - Solid drive!
Everyone is entitled to spend their own money how they would like, and I fully understand that many people have huge amounts of disposable income. However, think how dangerous it is if everyone thinks that way. It will make RRP pointless and just turn every release into a bidding war between shops to see who can scalp the most and just how much they can push people to spend. Afterall if you feel that way, what happens if there are enough people willing to spend more than you are to buy up the stock of whatever you want? Pretty soon you too would be priced out of any release day sales.
Not a dig, I'm interested in your thoughts as to how to avoid it snowballing
Simple, AMD(and Nvidia) shouldn't release a product if they can't meet demand. It must suck for them too - they make a product with an RRP of say £500, and then they see it being sold for £600 everywhere? That affects them as well - all reviews will mention it, people have a different perception of the product, the brand etc. If there was no constrained supply this wouldn't happen because normal market forces would apply and you could always buy the product from someone else, the sellers would outbid each other down now up. When the supply is limited the opposite happens - being the cheapest doesn't matter if you don't have any stock, so why be the cheapest?
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Everyone is entitled to spend their own money how they would like, and I fully understand that many people have huge amounts of disposable income. However, think how dangerous it is if everyone thinks that way. It will make RRP pointless and just turn every release into a bidding war between shops to see who can scalp the most and just how much they can push people to spend. Afterall if you feel that way, what happens if there are enough people willing to spend more than you are to buy up the stock of whatever you want? Pretty soon you too would be priced out of any release day sales.
Not a dig, I'm interested in your thoughts as to how to avoid it snowballing
Oh I hate the practice too but this will always happen where people get so excited by a new product that they have to have it, look at iPhone between 4 and 10, look at the latest dslr camera (especially in the UK), look at the 3080 fiasco. I think if you really want to tackle this you need to tackle how people view these things more so than retailers responding to demand.
That aside, I was more responding to the notion that money is a finite thing.
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I’ve got some money saved for a new build but don’t have enough for a GPU yet. I keep thinking I’ll grab a CPU today and the rest later but the more sensible me is saying there’s no rush, wait and see the reviews first.
Feeling a bit guilty of being lured in by all this lol.
Feeling a bit guilty of being lured in by all this lol.
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I have no idea how supply will be but if you can wait then at least hold out for Black Friday as I would assume there may be a few bargains to be had.
I'm pretty sure they will be allowing all orders regardless of how much stock they have because Gibbo said that they have only a few 5950X so if you order one and don't get one allocated you will be waiting 4-6 weeks for stock replenishment, which implies orders are not tied to the actual stock they are holding.
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embargo will lift at 2pm guys
https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1324322885813571584?s=20
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They'll definitely take your money regardless of whether they can supply the product.
Good call on not the Kraken AIO. The number of folks on the FB groups who wouldn't considering anything else is depressing
"All the same thing." "So?"
"All made by Asetek." "So?"
"All the same parts!" "So?"
"Everything else is the same thing but cheaper!" "So?"
Gets VERY silly
I love NZXT products. My new build is in an H710i and I went with the Z73 because it's something a bit different
Initially I thought it would just make it easier in terms of fans and software, but I ruined it by getting an MSI board, Gigabyte GPU and Corsair RAM 
So I guess the only thing I can say now is I like the aesthetic
Am I missing where it says that in your link?
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oldeg did say "..5950X & 5900X stock is very limited & will sell out fast. 5800X & 5600X stock is much better.." on twitter