S/C Installation all done - Up and running, WOOOOOSH!!!

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HI there

Well today started early for me, by 8:30am I was in Macclesfield picking up my uncle (truck mechanic), we were in Halfords in Stoke for 9:30am purchasing some parts and we arrived at OcUK Motors garage for 10:00am ish.

So work commenced, we got the front bumper, grill, sidelights, indicators all off with relative ease. Everything else was going fine until it came to remove the alternator pulley. The nut was on so tight that the pulley was slipping in the belt, increasing belt tension had no success. After approx 30 mins of trying several different techniques we gave up.

So we proceeded with draining the coolant and doing other areas. We gave up with the alternator pulley as the only way to get this off was to use the impact gun my uncle had, unfortunately we had no airline. So I hunted down an airline and then the alternator pulley came off with ease. Its amazing how easy the right tools can make a job.

So all was going fine again, then upon removing the metal water hoses in the engine valley represented a problem, we had no cap and so had to make something fit and in the process we probably lost a good litre of water, oh well.

Once again all was going fine until it come to removing the crank pulley, our pulley tool was useless. As the Saleen crank is very strange so the only way off was with mini-crow bars, hammers and lots of work arounds along with lots of patience. After about one hour it came free and thankfully fitting the new crank pulley was a breeze as it got onto the keyhole with ease and I was able to source a new bolt from Ford UK, though I was lucky as it was the only bolt in the UK.

Anyway from there on things have gone great. 8.5 hours later and we've got most things on and installed including pulleys, belt, spark plugs, Supercharger, intercooler, water pump/brackets and its now coming together.

Tomorrow we've gotta fit the new injectors and re-install the fuel rails. Gotta route some coolant hoses, wire up the H20 pump/switch, extend the alternator wiring, fit the throttle body to the S/C, install all the CAI and MAF which means were practically done. Then put the car back together and hope the bonnet closes and everything fires up nicely.

I did take pictures but left the camera at work so will have to put them up tomorrow but needless to say things have gone pretty well. My uncle has been a great help and having two of us doing it does make things a lot easier and adds further quality control to the job. :)

What was quite funny is at times we got ahead of ourselves, as in forget about the manual and just started removing parts which meant some later stages in the manual went very quick. :D Thats the advantage of previously pulling the car apart. ;)
 
nokinidea said:
Bad start by the looks of it.
Bet you were wishing you brought it to me to begin with :D
Glad it got easier..
Still lots to do then. good luck, you'll be proud when it's all done and purring like a kitten. :cool:

Andy

Hi m8

Your welcome to come down and help. :p :)

Yeah the crank pulley was the biggest bitch of a problem, not having the correct removal tool made things very slow and painful. Thankfully we kept our patience and kept having breaks then coming back for another attempt. Luckily putting the Ford stock pulley back on was a lot easier as it went straight on the keyhole with the old bolt no messing. So then just put the new bolt on, tightened it to 66Lb-Ft, un-did it 360 degrees, re-tightened to 39Lb-Ft plus an addition 90 degree turn and all sorted. :)
 
Hi there

Well we've spent another 6 hours today and apart from some niggly wires and routing were about 90% done. Just 1-2 hours more and she will be all put back together and as new, plus working as should be hopefully. :)

Shall post some pictures up soon from yesterday and today. :)
 
Hi there

Images from Day One (8 Hours)

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DAY 2

Images from Day Two

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As you can see from the pictures it has come along nicely.

Also the bonnet closes, it rubs a little but in a weeks time the lowering mounts go in which drop the engine 1/2 inch. :)
 
burns said:
Good job, I like seeing people getting stuck in and doing work on their cars them selves. Must say I'd be slightly wary with an engine bay that full of gubbins.

Hi there

I think my engine bay is pretty bare compared to most cars. As I'd never attempt such a job on the 3000GT as its was cram packed under the bonnet on that car. :)
 
burns said:
Yeah, could be much worse I guess, at least it;s not just a mass of plastic covers. I'm just used to being able to see large amounts of floor though the engine bay. I guess it's just one of those things you have to put up with when you have a huge engine:D.

Hi there

I can see plenty of floor, can even reach from the top of the engine bay and nearly touch the floor, there is plenty of space to move around in, hence why its possible to add this kit without too much fuss. :)
 
West said:
Mustangs must have upgrades in mind then hehe

Seriously though, sounds great what you've done, I have to come along to a meet one day just to have a nose in on that machine of yours, since seeing it, and of course going to America to see them.. I have fell in love with them :)

Hi there

Well not sure if it is Mustangs or just Americans.
There is several supercharger kits, turbo kits, cam kits amongst many other modifications available for the Mustang. :) Though in the US its a very popular car.
 
Mickey_D said:
So was the supercharger install the reason the alternator had to be mounted backwards, or is it that way stock?

Other than that I can't really tell it's not factory from the pics :p

HI m8

Yep thats correct. The kit comes with a new bracket, studs and nuts so you can mount it backwards so everything fits nicely. :)
 
Hi there

Well I finished it off yesterday morning and evening. Its all back together now!

So I turned the ignition on, BUT NOT ENGINE! The new intercooler pump kicked in and the system ran so all airlocks gone from the coolant system.

However then ufortunately I could smell fuel and noticed that the injector at front of car on drivers side was leaking, nooooooooooo!

Upon closer inspection obviously when removing the old injectors the port on the fuel rail got slightly bent out of angle causing to much straing on the injectors. :(

So early this morning I tried my best to put the port back in the correct position. So placed an old injector back in the port and gently but with plenty of force bent it back into place. Now it lines up much easier and there is NO LEAKS!!

Next stage is to flash the ECU and start the car up, fingers crossed! Just waiting for the damn tunes to arrive!
 
Almeda said:
Nice one Gibbo. This looks like a great project and well done for having a go yourself. How much power are you looking at after everything is done?

A car in the US with exact same setup and same headers/exhaust as me is making 540BHP and 560Lb-Ft.

However that is dyno tuned and properly setup. As my tune is email it will be conservative and I will be happy with anything between 480-520BHP and similar torque level. :)
 
Hi there

Well just drove home in the car. No strange smells or anything, all pressure and temperature levels same as normal. :)

Now I've not properly tried the performance as I want to run it in and not overcook it either.

But needless to say flooring it in 2nd at the moment results in some sideways action on some road surfaces. :eek:

3rd pulls harder than 2nd did previously before the S/C installation. Plus the cars seems to pull harder from 2500rpm then it did previously past 5000rpm.

Upto now I've not gone past 4000rpm as its damn SCARY and I want to run it in. Plus the sound it makes is just sooooo amazing. Now just fingers crossed it runs OK and no problems develop. :)
 
Hi there

Just been out for another drive.

Wound it up to 4500rpm this time and oh my the sound!! Its so much better than before. It now sounds like there is 7.0l under the bonnet even on normalish acceleration. Foot to the floor and it whines oh so lovely, gonna keep it all sub 4500rpm for now and keep a check on everything. :)

Also MPG seems hardly effected which is good. All I can say is booting it in 4th from 1200rpm just result in insane pickup, its real nice.

Can't wait to get it on the rollers and get the lowering mounts in as it is rubbing against the bonnet insulation ever so slightly.

Gonna put about 400-500 miles on it before I truly start taking it upto 6000rpm and I need to get used to it myself. Plus at the moment she is running on a very conservative and RICH tune for safety until I get some A/F readings. Supposedly once they get my A/F ratio they might be able to give me upto another 50BHP, crazy stuff. :D
Plus I never gapped the plugs, setting them to 0.32-0.35 can yield some extra power too as that is the recommended setting.

Also beginning to master 2nd, half throttle upto 3000rpm which still pulls harder than full throttle previously did and then nail it and my god its like the world is ending. Absolutely loving it!!! :D

Also handling and steering response seems un-affected considering there is another good 30kg on the front-end. However once its dropped 1/2 inch it will handle nicer. :)
 
Conanius said:
you gonna drive every day so you can put on those miles intime for the RR day ? :eek:

Hi m8

Sure am, unless it snows or get icy. Lets just hope its not raining on the RR day or I will just have to pootle down. :)
 
jp7152 said:
Sounds like very good fun indeed.

How much does the car weigh?

Hi there

The supercharger has added some weight so I reckon its something in the 1570-1620kg area. :)

Around 350BHP per tonne I think. :D
 
merlin said:
It smelt good too, I spent 20 miles breathing in it's fumes. :D

Hi m8

It smells even better now!

As this is the first tune its a safe one thats both conservative on the power and set on the rich side. Afterall running rich is a lot safer than running lean. I am down PowerStation next Wednesday to have engine lowering mounts put in and everything checked over. Shall also be going on the RR to see what she is producing and to get some A/F read outs. Then I can give the data to my guy in the US who can finalise my tune for me in time for the RR.

I will also no doubt be removing the DE-CAT pipes too whilst at PowerStation as I can't stand the UZI machine gun type noise I get around 2000rpm.
 
Vicious said:
surely this is the only saleen mustang thats SC in the country now, as im sure you said were hardly any saleen stangs in the uk

Congratz on doing it your self, il await a video :D

Hi there

Think there is 1-2 Saleen S/C cars but they are the official Saleen S/C car. Which are not as good. Basically 430-460BHP at the crank dependent on year. As the Saleen cars don't have uprated injectors or MAF so they lean out past 5800rpm hence why most are sub 450BHP. Plus Saleen make good cars but are not the best tuners.

JDM who are now tuned over 400 Saleen supercharged Mustangs get another 30-50BHP even from a stock Saleen with simply their tunes, plus their tunes give a better margin of safety too.

One guy in the US has identical setup to myself, same headers, de-cats etc. etc. He is running the JDM Race tune which has been tweaked on the dyno and his is running 540BHP and 560Lb-Ft. Mine won't be anywhere near that due to running a safe conservative tune but hopefully with time, datalogging and a couple of dyno runs I can get close to it. :)
 
D4VE said:
Sounds good, what boost is it running?

You may find it makes most of its boost at half throttle hence why its so quick like that.
My Rover turbo made most of its boost at half throttle, so going to full throttle only yielded a bit more performance.

Sounds awesome though, not many cars have more than 350bhp/tonne, you wont get beaten often unless you regularly come up against Ferrari F40s etc :D

HI m8

Its got a 3.60 pulley (7.5psi) engine bottom end can cope with upto 10.5psi before it will blow something. However as most of these setups they tend to make a little less than full boost. So I expect its probably making 6-7psi. :)

Its raining today so have driven all the way to work in 4th at around 1500rpm, still even pushing the loud pedal at that is scary fast. :D
 
rayb74 said:
How did you lower the compression Gibbo? Or do cars with large capacitys not need to worry?

The engines compression is already low, so no need to. Plus as these cars come from the factory with superchargers fitted and the company who supplied my kit having already done over 400 installations I think its needless to say I am in quite good hands. :)

One guy was running 700BHP before the engine went on stock internals, then he just put a stroker in and is making around 800BHP now and is soon going to add ***.

My main worry was the clutch but it seems thats also fine upto 600BHP before it will start wearing fast.
 
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