Sack Brunstrom petition

[Glaucus]

He should have been sacked instantly, for not getting permission and he should have to pay them compensation for *** distress caused. Imagine seeing your child, husband ect on an add campaign with his head cut off .

It's absolutely despicable that this jerk has managed to keep his job, he should off been booted out straight away just for that one thing let alone anything else

 

[helpimcrap]

I think it taken a lot of balls to do what he did. Although i think its totally wrong he didnt ask the family and he loves his speed cameras far far too much, people just don't seem to learn if its not in their face to shock them. Sure you can be decapitated at 30 MPH, but the events that lead up the accident can be avoid easier, you might just be able to fall off the bike and suffer a broken arm. At 100MPH you wouldn't have a chance to react and if you come off the bike you're far more likely to suffer injuries greater than at 30mph (i'm just using two extremes to illustrate a point).

balls? stupidity and arrogance on his part. as said if he wants to stop bad drivers he needs to stop thinking everyone is speeding and stick more police on the roads to stop the bad drivers/riders who cause accidents. more police awareness would help... instead he would rather stick up speed cameras. im no angel but i would much rather see a copper on the road than a speed camera..... speed cameras cant catch drunk drivers, dangerous drivers, or anyone else who is doing something stupid under the speed limit. i know more people killed by drink driving (being hit) than i do by speeding, and i'm of the biker fraternity which according to brunstrom is the spawn of the devil.

also, the speed you come off at is irrelevant to a certain degree.... its what you hit after you leave the bike that decides your fate.

[awaits flaming....] i crashed at roughly 120 on a b road a few years back... i lost control on gravel in the centre of the road coming around a corner when a car pulled out in front of me. i was following other riders on a road i didnt know so my own fault. i chucked my bike down the road rather than hit the car... not because it might hurt more to me at the time, but because they were an innocent party to it. my bike hit a post and was pretty totalled, and i luckily slid down the road and up an embankment in between 2 big oak trees. a 5 ft gap and i went straight through it.... lucky? yes... and i knew it. all i had were bruised elbows. i'm still a prat on a bike on the road... hence i dont ride one now. but i know a mate of a mate had a girl walk out in front of him with an ipod on and he was doing spot on 30mph before he slammed his brakes on just clipped the girl but he ended up going down on one side and doing a lot of damage to his right side. so theres my examples of speed dont kill.... its circumstance. [/flaming]

 

[vanpeebles]

Wales has big problems like other places with drugs especially methdone and hes more bothered about hounding motorists. Didnt he once saying something about speeding drivers being the worst kind of criminals or something?

 

[Matt82]

thats easy. motorists typically have money. junkies do not, hence, the motorist is pursued.

the roads in wales are great. the typical speeds that people travel on them are not far from motorway speeds. i had a good drive following a dumper truck at 65 through some amazing roads. he didnt lift or brake anywhere lol

you do get dozy prats who drive totally unaware of whats going on around them that make the job twice as hard.

i expect its these dozy prats that are for the anti speed thing as its an excuse for their incompetence behind the wheel

 

[Gaygle]

[awaits flaming....] i crashed at roughly 120 on a b road a few years back... i lost control on gravel in the centre of the road coming around a corner when a car pulled out in front of me. i was following other riders on a road i didnt know so my own fault. i chucked my bike down the road rather than hit the car... not because it might hurt more to me at the time, but because they were an innocent party to it. my bike hit a post and was pretty totalled, and i luckily slid down the road and up an embankment in between 2 big oak trees. a 5 ft gap and i went straight through it.... lucky? yes... and i knew it. all i had were bruised elbows. i'm still a prat on a bike on the road... hence i dont ride one now. but i know a mate of a mate had a girl walk out in front of him with an ipod on and he was doing spot on 30mph before he slammed his brakes on just clipped the girl but he ended up going down on one side and doing a lot of damage to his right side. so theres my examples of speed dont kill.... its circumstance. [/flaming]

Are you REALLY trying to say that speeding doesn't kill just because you had possibly one of the luckiest escapes in your life? Good justification. Had you been going 80MPH you may have avoided the whole thing and gone on your merry way. You were just DAMN lucky you aren't embedded in the side of the car.

And your friend who hit the little girl (hope he's alright now) but what im saying is that its lucky he was going 30mph! Had he been going 50mph it would have been a LOT worse than damaging his right side.

I'm not one of these anti speed freaks, but i honestly don't see how anyone can argue that the faster you go, generally the worse the injuries? Its simple physics, no? On a clear motorway, fine, i'm all for doing 100mph because the chance of an unknown causing you to crash is very low. But apart from fairly clear motorways, surely there are too many "what ifs" for going excessively fast to be classified as "safe".

EDIT: I also agree that there need to be more traffic cops rather than these lame speed cameras.

 

[Gaygle]

I can illustrate the opposite argument with an extreme, though, by saying that by that reasoning we should all drive around in tanks at 1mph

Ah yes, but we'd all go round in tanks at 1mph if we wanted to achieve 100% safety. Unfortunately driving isn't 100% safe so you need to strike a happy medium, where the speed and safety is at its highest.

Ie. 10mph is faster than 1mph, you get 10x the speed, but no where near 10x the risk.

 

[kingo15]

being a biker myself and have down some speeding on roads you enter that zone knowing what can happen if you dont then you dont have the marbles to ride a bike.

there have been sevral bike accidents here in northants over the past month due to the warmer weather and more bikers out and about.

having seen a few accidents in my local town where drivers have not seen bikers riding at slower speeds and cut through them makes you wonder what chance they would have stood if they were riding at 60 mph+ on a b road.

if people all stuck to the speed limit then the accident rate would probably drop but not in the way people expect due to the fact of driver observations in this country is absolute S***.

 

[helpimcrap]

Are you REALLY trying to say that speeding doesn't kill just because you had possibly one of the luckiest escapes in your life? Good justification. Had you been going 80MPH you may have avoided the whole thing and gone on your merry way. You were just DAMN lucky you aren't embedded in the side of the car.

And your friend who hit the little girl (hope he's alright now) but what im saying is that its lucky he was going 30mph! Had he been going 50mph it would have been a LOT worse than damaging his right side.

I'm not one of these anti speed freaks, but i honestly don't see how anyone can argue that the faster you go, generally the worse the injuries? Its simple physics, no? On a clear motorway, fine, i'm all for doing 100mph because the chance of an unknown causing you to crash is very low. But apart from fairly clear motorways, surely there are too many "what ifs" for going excessively fast to be classified as "safe".

EDIT: I also agree that there need to be more traffic cops rather than these lame speed cameras.

if speeding is so dangerous limit cars to 70mph. job done.

its not the speed, its the circumstance...

theres a time and a place to do it... and i think basically my point is that if you speed you are not instantly going to die as this copper makes out, and you are not going to instantly kill a child either. he is a sensationalist to the extreme and ignores common sense. what we need is variable speed limits on motorways, harsher punishments on poor driving standards and violence behind the wheel (road rage/intimidation). we also need accurate figures to go by... not the crap he spouts. think there was a thing about speed cameras in black spot areas due to recorded accidents.... and one camera was there because there was something like 3 accidents in a month on a bridal path NEXT to the road. i mean, c'mon...

anyway... i bounce well. (found that one out racing when i lost front at 160+mph on oil and slammed straight into the back of another guy! bruising again... )

 

[Gaygle]

if speeding is so dangerous limit cars to 70mph. job done.

Speeding isn't dangerous when its used in the right areas.

its not the speed, its the circumstance...

But speed can sway the circumstance

theres a time and a place to do it... and i think basically my point is that if you speed you are not instantly going to die as this copper makes out, and you are not going to instantly kill a child either. he is a sensationalist to the extreme and ignores common sense.

Agreed, he is OTT and a bit of a div.

what we need is variable speed limits on motorways

Definately, the number of times i've been on a motorway and its clear as far as the eye can see but there is still a 70 limit. Its stupid, i think drivers should be able to make their own decisions about speed. But then i think its alright for the good drivers to do this, but what about these idiots we see everyday? If we told them "you can go faster as long as you're safe" and they do 120 in their Nova, if they got pulled over they'd just tell the copper 'oh i thought it was safe'. You could have better education for drivers, but there will ALWAYS be idiots on the road.

harsher punishments on poor driving standards and violence behind the wheel (road rage/intimidation).

Its difficult to do this because there are fewer and fewer traffic cops these days.

anyway... i bounce well. (found that one out racing when i lost front at 160+mph on oil and slammed straight into the back of another guy! bruising again... )

A real life Iron Man?

 

[Hixxy]

He should have been sacked instantly, for not getting permission and he should have to pay them compensation for *** distress caused. Imagine seeing your child, husband ect on an add campaign with his head cut off .

It's absolutely despicable that this jerk has managed to keep his job, he should off been booted out straight away just for that one thing let alone anything else

i don't agree with what he did at all but to get it in context, it was a closed meeting for journalists on the effect speed can have, it wasnt the start of an ad campaign - the pictures were not released to be published anywhere. The man was stupid enough to think a room full of journalists wouldnt run straight to the dead mans family to try and get a story out of it.

 

[helpimcrap]

i don't agree with what he did at all but to get it in context, it was a closed meeting for journalists on the effect speed can have, it wasnt the start of an ad campaign - the pictures were not released to be published anywhere. The man was stupid enough to think a room full of journalists wouldnt run straight to the dead mans family to try and get a story out of it.

thats his arrogance showing. best of it is that he will get away with it again...