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Are you trying to say that he wasn't really executed? If so, go and find one of the uncut videos of his hanging that are currently littered around the net.
Cant find one!
iCraig said:![]()
Are you trying to say that he wasn't really executed? If so, go and find one of the uncut videos of his hanging that are currently littered around the net.
So my interrogation wasn't as thorough as it could have been...SeanyK said:Don't suppose you thought people might still have family living over there? No... Didnt think so.
neocon said:Cant find one!
Al Vallario said:So my interrogation wasn't as thorough as it could have been...
Do you? I don't, but then again I'm not making sweeping statements about the situation in Iraq and claiming that people who come to certain conclusions which happen to contradict mine are "ignorant" nor that they are "brainwashed" by the media.
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iCraig said:I can't link you to any, but it's out there.![]()
neocon said:Can you tell me how to find it?
Search engine?
Search phrase?
iCraig said:Why are you so desperate to see the moment of his death? The media have cut it as the video is distressing for some, and unnecessary for most to witness.
I don't think it's on the likes of YouTube yet.
iCraig said:Why are you so desperate to see the moment of his death? The media have cut it as the video is distressing for some, and unnecessary for most to witness.
I don't think it's on the likes of YouTube yet.
MasterMike said:According to the BBC news report, only the moments leading up to the death were broadcast, not the actual execution itself. Is it wrong?
neocon said:I'm confussed. Was it filmed?
"We will video everything... All documentation will be videoed. Taking him [Saddam Hussein] from his cell to the execution is going to be videoed, and the actual execution will be documented and videoed."
Spie said:Some very morbid people posting here.
Spie said:Some very morbid people posting here.
neocon said:I won't believe it until I see Uncle Saddam being hung.
There have been two separate videos officially released. The first shows Saddam amongst a group of men with skimasks on, he is offered a bag to place over his head and refuses. He then has a scarf-like thing placed around his neck, followed by the noose. It does not include the actual hanging.neocon said:I'm confussed. Was it filmed?
An excellent post Mr Garp. We will now be hated even more than before. I am ashamed of this government. They are nothing more than worthless parasites.Garp said:The deed is done, one less former dictator in the world. A cause for celebration surely? Not really.
Justice served? Hardly. A Mickey Mouse court operation, a legal defence team stymied at every turn; never allowed to see all the evidence being used against him, a Judge appointed and trained by the US for the explicit purpose of this case who from the very start declared Saddam "Guilty", done in a court set up and controlled by the United States (illegal under the international humanitarian law in the Fourth Geneva Convention); A tribunal who obscured justice at all stages, first declaring no evidence existed from the Dujail trial, and then later allowed the prosecution to use evidence from it whilst simultaneously refusing the defence team access to any of the records; who refused to even tell the defence team the charges being raised against the defendants until the trial had already been going for 8 months.
Justice? Yeah right. The United Nations independent review found it unjust in its final opinion back at the start of September http://international-lawyers.org/Doc...20Decision.pdf and had even told both the Supreme Iraqi Criminal Tribunal and the US government that things needed to be improved, and as importantly what needed improved, over a year prior to that.
Light the touch paper and withdraw to a safe distance? We'll be lucky if that distance even exists on this planet. All they've done with this pathetic excuse for Justice is sign the death warrants of many hundreds of innocents, not just in Iraq but across the world, both foreign citizens and their own, and they've sent a clear message to the Iraqis that they cannot look to the law or the occupation government to defend themselves, cannot look to them for fairness, freedom and justice; the self same rights that supposedly form the corner stones of western society. The protests and the violence that we'll see come out from this will likely be unbelievable. How many hundreds of thousands of innocents must die before a country will accept that its actions abroad are causing them?
This whole farce gets me so annoyed. There was no reason for it to be done this way. The coalition had all the opportunity to ensure it got done the right way, 100% visible to the world. A chance to show the world that the coalition forces still stood on the side of justice. Instead they proved themselves to be little better than savage dictators, dispensing their idea of right and wrong with no thought to justice at all.
I don't claim Saddam was innocent, I'm quite confident that he was probably very much guilty of the crimes he got tried for, and many more beyond it; but you can't expect others to grant justice to yourself and a fair legal trial and not allow it to others. Small wonder groups like Amnesty International were protesting about Saddam's trial, the self same group who have campaigned so hard to see him brought to one. http://web.amnesty.org/pages/irq-281206-statement-eng
Al Vallario said:As for an uncut version, I haven't seen one yet...
Al Vallario said:There have been two separate videos officially released. The first shows Saddam amongst a group of men with skimasks on, he is offered a bag to place over his head and refuses. He then has a scarf-like thing placed around his neck, followed by the noose. It does not include the actual hanging.
The second, broadcast by Iraqi television stations, includes various camera angles showing Saddam's body lying on the ground with a white sheet covering everything but his head.
Both of these videos are readily available and are being shown on TV in parts. As for an uncut version, I haven't seen one yet...
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