Safe to run windows 7 as main OS?

It's only an issue you'll encounter once a threshhold of stored folder views have been added to the registry after which the size has to be increased or the BAGS/MRU keys in the registry need to be deleted to start over with folder views again to clear existing views.

You'd encounter it sooner than later if you're managing folders day in day out as every folder opened will retain that particular view in the reg IIRC.

Ah possibly, but then I wouldn't really look at that issue as being that serious. Infact I probably wouldn't even look at it as a minor issue. If it happens, I'll probably just think to myself... hmm strange... and then just set it back to how I want it.
 
With MSN 2009 installed I have it set to save chat history to my documents folder. With UAC off this is perfectly fine but with UAC on or in quiet mode MSN will throw an error saying it could not save the chat history when closing a message window.

That's very odd, mine has never done that and I have UAC on quiet mode on both my PC and notebook.
 
Hi, I would have thought, being all adults here :rolleyes: that if somebody is aware of all the risks then it is up to them if they want to use a beta OS as their main OS. After all we don't lecture anyone who climbs mountains or takes part in any other risky extreme sport so why should we dictate to them about Windows 7.
I am a IT technician and I am using win7 as my main OS, I don't really if care there are issues, as I want to find out about them before it is RTM. If it goes t*ts up then I will just put Vista back on, as everything I use is backed up anyway, or repair the damage. Can't see what the issue is...
Chris
 
UAC was just an annoyance to me in Vista, and whenever I installed Vista, the very first thing I did, was totally disable it.
We've never had anything like UAC prior to Vista, and I personally don't see why it's needed now. Unless you totally have no idea what you're doing, then i guess its there to warn you when you're about to change something, but appart from that, it's completely useless and annoying for me.

Hi, UAC was MS's response to all those that kept bleating on that is was far too easy to install malware or other potentially damaging software onto a PC. For you, and me, it is a (minor) niggle, hardly something to get worked up about though as it is so easy to switch off if needed. However there are those, who seem to have a kind of memory lapse, one of the things that was commonly quoted at the time XP was released was that it was more insecure than windows 2k and we should all stay with that OS. Now we have vista the very same, ignorant, people are saying we should stay with XP. Can't please all of the people all of the time can MS?
Chris
 
There was a time when rape within marriage was legal.

All those people here who married before 1993 and didn't take advantage - you missed your chance.
 
There was a time when rape within marriage was legal.

All those people here who married before 1993 and didn't take advantage - you missed your chance.

I don't think you've taken this thread off the rails. I think you've gone off the rails over a bank and into a river. :p
 
I don't think you've taken this thread off the rails. I think you've gone off the rails over a bank and into a river. :p

Lol :p

I think that using a beta OS as your main operating system is not safe. Most people will not want to reinstall constantly, most people infact never reformat their machine when they get it new, so if the beta ****s up, they have lost all their data and being a beta it is not the finished product and therefore is more likely to do so. Calling it "safe" is not right. It may well run well enough and be reasonably secure, but due to it being a beta it's incomplete. Using it continuosly is a good way to find problems, but don't expect it to be safe.

In regards to 7 being faster than Vista I believe it probably is as MS would have had a chance to polish the code more since Vista, improving performance. If your going to argue that 7 won't be any faster than Vista as most everyday tasks, I'll happily add that Vista gives no obvious performance benefits over xp. Sorry, but it doesn't and I use both.
 
I'm running it as my main OS now. In the past with new OS's I've always had problems with drivers/compatibility so never could run the betas of Win2k and WinXP etc but Win7 runs perfectly with existing drivers so I thought why not :) All my data is stored on another drive and I dont have anything I dont mind losing.

I find it pretty stable, no real issues so far. Speed wise I wouldnt say it's a massive improvement over Vista on a fast machine but it's a very good improvement over Vista on a slower machine and dont forget it's a fairly early beta and I can only assume it'll get better.
 
With MSN 2009 installed I have it set to save chat history to my documents folder. With UAC off this is perfectly fine but with UAC on or in quiet mode MSN will throw an error saying it could not save the chat history when closing a message window.

Hi mrk, I am honestly not entirely sure why you are having problems with MSN 2009 when saving your chat history to your documents folder. Saving to the "My Documents" folder shouldn't need elevated rights and there's no reason why it shouldn't be saving directly to that folder.

Another example is on my laptop I use VCB (Visual Course Builder) for work purposes and also Photoshop CS4.

VCB has a built in clip gallery which I often edit the contents of from photoshop.
1: When working on a VCB project I click preview at which point VCB creates a HTML preview of my work and displays it in IE. With UAC on the preview cannot be created as it fails with an error message saying it could not create the preview files – UAC has blocked it without asking me for elevated permissions to allow it. A bit annoying....so I disable UAC for stuff like this.

2: When opening a clip gallery image from VCB’s install directory I do my editing in Photoshop and click “save” to overwrite the existing one but PS says it cannot do this as access was denied to the directory. I end up having to save to desktop then copying the updated image to the VCB dir via Explorer then UAC asks me if I grant permission for this action.

It's understandable why it isn't letting you save it into that directory with standard user privileges. However, there must also be a reasonable explanation on why it isn't asking you to elevate the privileges so you have the ability to save it into that directory. At a guess though, it maybe something to do with the type of rights the application you are using has to that particular folder and also the type of rights you have as a user has to that particular folder which will probably only be read access and able to execute files but no other permission which may suggest why you're having a few problems:

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If we take Microsoft Word for example, if you are using that particular program to write a document and wish to save it to say "Program Files" (Which you obviously wouldn't do but to get to the point I'm trying to get across, just say you wanted too), then access will be denied. However, if you launch Microsoft Word with administrator privileges (Which once again you wouldn't but as above just say you did) then you wouldn't have any problems with saving your document to somewhere like "Program Files".

It would probably be a similar outcome if you ran Photoshop with administrator privileges, where you wouldn’t have any problems. However, that you shouldn't have to do.

I've got no in depth experience of either Visual Course Builder or Photoshop so I do apologise if what I'm about to say is way off the mark. Since you are having problems editing files due to the directory you are opening them from, is it possible to change the directory path of your files so they are saved to just a user based folder? :)

Unless you totally have no idea what you're doing, then i guess its there to warn you when you're about to change something, but appart from that, it's completely useless and annoying for me.

Hi Loque, I'm sorry but the only people that think User Account Control is useless are those that quite frankly don't fully understand it.

Yeah I know it does. Thats why I mentioned it. I was talking about those of us who are completely comfortable in our level of Windows knowledge.

If you are completely comfortable in your level of Windows knowledge, then you would understand that running as a user that has administrative rights on absolutely everything is a risk in itself and in which, you would leave User Account Control enabled. It doesn't matter how experienced of a user you are, you cannot emulate what User Account Control does and the way it protects you. :)
 
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With regard to the explorer losing view settings for folders...

How do you increase the number of them that can be stored? (cba to search :o)
 
With regard to the explorer losing view settings for folders...

How do you increase the number of them that can be stored? (cba to search :o)
21. In regedit, go to: (See screenshot below)
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
22. In the right pane, right click on BagMRU Size.
23. Click on Modify.
24. Dot the Decimal and type 20000 (folders) and click on OK. (See screenshot below)

Taken from...

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/70819-windows-explorer-folder-view-settings.html
 
i have it dual booted and plan to stick to win7 as long as i can, same as when vista was in this stage
 
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