SanDisk use fake CE marking?

something isn't right about this...

my barclays pin sentry thing has a "fake" CE according to this thread and so does half my MS products but not the other half. My external HDD and laptop have the "proper" one and so does the spare PSUs I have and so on... its about 50/50 and some of this stuff deffinatly isn't fake :P
 
Just checked my Sandisk Sansa player, it has a "fake" CE mark, bought from Amazon, don't think it's fake though judging by packaging and build quality
 
Maybe I'm being daft, but why does the majority of this thread assume that if a product has a Chinese CE mark instead of the EU safety CE mark (confusingly similar, I admit) that they're fakes? Surely one doesn't automatically indicate the other? Surely it just means that that particular company's goods don't undergo EU CE testing, but rather are just an export of China?

Or did I miss something? :o

EDIT: Beaten like a ginger stepchild. Damn you NS :D Note to self - type shorter posts lol
 
My Nikon D200 and the San Disk card to go with it seem to have the "real" one

Though my MS keyboard and razer copperhead don't.

But as others have pointed out, most of this stuff is manufactured there anyway. hardly makes a difference. the razer's been going strong for almost 3 or 4 years now.
 
The point is - in case of small items like unnamed memory sticks or generic headphones etc it might be just a case of people importing stuff cheaper directly from China rather than registering official OEM and submitting random products for certification, so the CE mark puts them "at ease" - customers will be happy, no one will find out.

However, I find it hard to believe companies like Microsoft wouldn't use proper logos on products that were already pre-certified to CE mark and tell manufacturer to use fake symbols. It's more likely Chinese manufacturer with proper contract to produce MS labeled stuff does what Chinese manufacturers do - make X amount of unlabeled Chinese Export stamped copies that don't go on regular Microsoft production sheet, they then get labeled by another company somewhere on the outskirts of Fakeing and since they are exactly same product, they get flogged all over Europe below official price.
 
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MrFunex said:
My Dell laptop has 3 CE markings on the bottom, 2 appear ok, but one looks like a China Export! :eek:
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So?... LOL I'm not sure why you'd have three, but surely they just indicate that it's an export from China that also passes/adheres to the EU CE scheme? That's a good thing, not a ":eek:" thing isn't it?
 
Ah, the perils of wikipedia... Did anyone check the source of the Chinese Export thing? It's a random youtube vid which looks like a news interview, with no backing beyond this woman's claims about this Chinese Export mark.

Until someone can provide proof that this mark exists, I'm inclined to think it's just manufacturers being lazy be using a badly reproduced mark.
 
Seems you're right, rendering this entire thread moot.

I have to admit it: I used this joke. But I have heard other CE marking consultants use it on many occasions. In fact, I think it is one of the most used jokes in presentations about CE marking:
“What do the letters CE in CE marking stand for?” The presenter then should proceed with a smile and say: “Some people think it means Chinese Export…”. (for those of you who do not know the right answer: CE originally stood for Conformité Européenne or European Conformity)
I came across this hilarious video on YouTube, posted by a Czech member of the European parliament. She must have participated in one of my colleagues’ sessions. Will somebody inform her that it was a JOKE.
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You can see HERE and HERE for more info.
 
http://www.ce-marking.org/what-is-ce-marking.html

Products can have both types of the CE mark.

If it's genuinely CE certified, and if it's a China Export. The non-standard CE mark just means it's a china export, and not necessarily a fake. Unfortunately china mis-used the symbol (as do some other asian countries) - but it's no different to any of the other standards marks these days.

If anyones products have the non-standard CE mark on them - it may not mean they are sub-standard, it just means they didn't sign up to the ridiculous European conformity standards set out for their particular device.

And remember -
"The CE Mark is not a quality mark, but a symbol that indicates fitness for purpose and conformity to the legal requirements of the European Union, with respect to safety, health, environment, and consumer protection"

If you want quality - look for the fake Kitemark ;)
 
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divosuk said:
The non-standard CE mark just means it's a china export, and not necessarily a fake.

If anyones products have the non-standard CE mark on them - it may not mean they are sub-standard, it just means they didn't sign up to the ridiculous European conformity standards set out for their particular device.
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The links I posted disagree with your statement. In fact, even the link you posted yourself makes no mention of "China Export" or "Chinese Export", it simply says non-standard CE marks are incorrect usage and lays out the correct way to abide by the scheme. :confused:
 
http://toys.hktdc.com/toys/suc-e-to...nid=&w_cid=&w_idt=1900-01-01&w_oid=203&w_jid=

I didn't actually say the China stuff was in the first link. Manufacturers do, however still use the mark on goods exported from china (knowing full well) it isn't certified. If they are then questioned about it - they then claim the mark simply means Chinese export.

And just to clear up the confusion. The Chinese export mark isn't in anyway official. And it's very difficult to prove that any Chinese manufacturer intentially misused the genuine CE mark for their own devious gains - but some do, and some don't (as in they genuinely get the dimensions wrong) ;)

And if you think we should go any higher for Answers - why not ask the European Parliament - surely they should know the answer (the answer is on the right)

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides...T+WQ+P-2007-5938+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&language=PL
 
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