SANs - where are people spending their budget?

This is the last lot of disti pricing i got, probably about 3 months out of date now but shows comparable pricing, doesnt include any seasonal offers either. This is all the entry level stuff, i have some pricing for the 32xx range also if interested. Will give you an idea of how much margin the reseller may try to put on kit.

FAS2040 6x1TB, Base SW £4,048.40
FAS2040 12X2TB, Base SW £9,092.70
FAS2040 12X1TB, Win-Bundle SW £8,955.97
FAS2040A, 12X1TB Win-Bundle SW £12,131.90
FAS2040A, 12X450GB, Win-Bundle SW £14,153.38
FAS2040A, 12X600GB, Complete Bundle SW £16,510.49

FAS2240, 12X1TB, Complete Bundle SW £17,690.19
FAS2240, 12X2TB, Complete Bundle SW 10GBE £21,191.17
FAS2240, 24X2TB, Complete Bundle SW 10GBE £27,032.65
FAS2240A, 24X2TB, Complete Bundle SW £31,795.59
 
FYI FAS2040 will be EOA by 2/11, and has already been replaced by the 2220, well, technically it replaces the 2020 but it gets a bit of a bugger to explain at that point.

Generally the 2220 fits the last batch of 2040 pricing though (excluding any promotions that may have been running). One area of contention, unlike the 2040 the 2220 does not support FC, making the 2240 now the lowest box that supports FC or 10GbE, also despite the bays being 3.5", any SAS drives in the head will in fact be 2.5" 10k.
 
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My current employer is going for EMC Avamar.

At my previous employment we were a NetAPP shop but I wasn't too impressed. FAS3040 performance over fibre wasn't great.
 
Sorry to hijack this a bit, but we have just been recommended a P2000 San as our requirements are very small (100 users with 8 virtual servers) Total size of the current environment is only 700Gb. What are peoples opinions on this? Should I opt for the P4000?
 
What connectivity on the P2000? There's a choice of SAS, iSCSI or Fibre Channel IIRC.

If you don't need to scale very big, then shared SAS can offer a good cost / performance mix. No need for dedicated iSCSI switches and 6Gbps from a single HBA.

The P4000 is quite a different beast.
 
AlexD said:
I seriously think you should look at the dell compellent line of products, I've always been more of an EMC fan but you can't ignore a good product. They have de-dupe, very granular storage tiering from 512KB blocks (blows EMC out of the water in this respect..1GB chunks seriously!?) and their management is dead easy to use and gives you a lot of functionality without having to buy all the additional licenses like you do with EMC.

Network raid is a left hand "technology" but for 25K budget any solution will provide redundant controllers with options in the future to use LUN volume replication and things like that if you wish to have any additional redundancy.
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Your talking about VNX which is a mid market product and priced as such. That level of granularity on AST is a VMXe and upwards conversation at EMC, but really, what SMB sized businesses need to move 512kb blocks in and out of tier 0,1,2 ?

Start scaling Compellent and the TCO for the customers Dell are throwing it in at makes no sense at all.

Dell are throwing their storage line in to customers for next to nothing and rightly so they need to give it away for free to make it worth while ;)

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O and if your looking at Compellent, make sure Dell arnt pulling the wool over your eyes on support costs. I've had a few customers where they have only quoted 1 yr support and its the same price as other vendors 3 yrs support. Cheeky cheeky
 
About the only good part of a Dell deal is they will drop their trousers and bend over for almost any customer nowadays. Just make sure you are happy the product will actually perform as intended, often the kit is not fit for purpose in these scenarios.
 
I really wouldnt be looking at DELL we use DELL EQL and EMC VNX both very different beasts and the DELL is a PITA to work on and manage. The EMC is nicer.

Also HP do Dedupe. On there D2D Onestore product line. (so i am informed)
 
Spammeh said:
anybody had any experience with the IBM v7000, had a look today and it looked good
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V7000 has a really nice GUI, taken from XIV.... also SVC is a cool feature.

Unsure about IBM's flash strategy, that's the really cool thing about storage at present.
 
I will preface my comments by saying I have been out of the SAN market for a few years but I do hope Dell support has improved!

They were worse than useless IME

I had to write to my boss explaining why I thought the relatively newly installed SAN was performing poorly - they had wired up the battery backed cache incorrectly.

Then there was the time they came in to do some work and plugged everything back into the wrong ports on the Brocade switches!


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About the only good part of a Dell deal is they will drop their trousers and bend over for almost any customer nowadays. Just make sure you are happy the product will actually perform as intended, often the kit is not fit for purpose in these scenarios.
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We have just gone with new NetApp. FAS 2240-4HA with an additional shelf, with a small bunch of SSD's for FlashCache, to go along with our entire 42 x 1Tb SATA array.
 
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We have just gone with new NetApp. FAS 2240-4HA with an additional shelf, with a small bunch of SSD's for FlashCache, to go along with our entire 42 x 1Tb SATA array.
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Would be interested to hear what kind of performance boost you get with FlashCache.
 
Hope you got a good price, the 2240-4HA FlashPool systems (tbh along with pretty much any popular 2240 configuration) are currently under promo till end of April (NetApp YE)

Solid little boxes regardless and the FlashPool should see you at >15K SAS performance (NetApp tend to keep actual metrics a bit quiet on their fieldportal documents)
 
we have been led to believe that we will be in excess of 28,000 iops, on each agg. The agg with the FlashCache, will be for our new VM system. The normal cifs traffic will be on a non FlashCache enhanced agg.
 
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we have been led to believe that we will be in excess of 28,000 iops, on each agg. The agg with the FlashCache, will be for our new VM system. The normal cifs traffic will be on a non FlashCache enhanced agg.
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As I last understood, FlashCache was read only, is this still the case? 28,000 IOPS sounds like a lot! Very impressive though.
 
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