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sorry meant flexcache
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SANs - where are people spending their budget?
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ok, 2240-4HA with additional shelf, 42 x 1tb & 6 x 300Gb SSD
Well on a Netapp 2240-4HA with additional shelf, 42 x 1tb & 6 x 300Gb SSD, the supplier will have a deal registration and discount applied from Netapp, simply asking from Disti for the price wont give you the correct margin the supplier makes.
They should be passing a lot of that discount onto the client though....thats what I do.
They should be passing a lot of that discount onto the client though....thats what I do.
some resellers are better at playing fair than others unfortunately, we have seen cases of resellers getting accepted deal regs and closing deals at near RRP.
The technology of SSDs and mechanical is referred to as a Flash Pool, this is a read/write based enhancement to the aggregate. FlashCache is still read only via the PAM cards, only available in 3220s and upwards.
The technology of SSDs and mechanical is referred to as a Flash Pool, this is a read/write based enhancement to the aggregate. FlashCache is still read only via the PAM cards, only available in 3220s and upwards.
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Very true!....I work for a huge Dell partner and we get up to 60% off RRP on Dell's EQL storage if we have deal reg, so I usually give my clients a huge chunk of that discount...guess thats what having a good relationship with your account manager is about.
Quite aware of this
as its an aggregate, different story altogether. Was lead to believe it was a PAM card, wasnt aware they were product specific.If you like I'll ask a mate for the disti pricing on the 2240 kit you bought. See how much margin your supplier was making!
Bit cheeky isnt it to do that.....? VAR's are meant to be add value and if they have done, why cant they make a decent margin?
See too many customers make a VAR dance to their song and then just try obtain cheaper pricing from somewhere else. Waste of everyone's time.
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Flash Pool, that's the one.
I'm not to bothered about the price, We have paid for it already, it goes live in a few weeks. Would have been interesting though.
I'm not to bothered about the price, We have paid for it already, it goes live in a few weeks. Would have been interesting though.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts and what kind of results you are getting
Hope you have a successful implementation.
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We've just gone for a NetApp FAS2240-4, dual controllers with dual 10GbE, 12x 2TB SATA disks and 2 DS4243 shelves with 48x 450Gb 15k SAS disks.
We considered Flash Pool but didn't have the budget. I understand we've not fully populated the appliance so we can add some flash later if we feel the need. With all those SAS spindles I'm not convinced we will.
We've moved our FAS2040 to our DR site and added a DS4234 shelf full of SATA disks. Our tape library has gone over to the DR site too, so we can backup to tape 24/7 without affecting day to day performance. Our nightly backups were starting to overrun into the mornings and were slowing things down quite a bit on occasion.
We've got pretty much the full software suite, including the VMWare tools, Snapmirror replication, Snapmanager for Exchange/SQL Server/Oracle etc.
Performance seems really good, especially over 10GbE. The SAN is in production, but we've not fully rolled out all the tools just yet and we're looking at getting rid/virtualising most of our remaining physical boxes - most of which are older Solaris machines. I'm currently setting up a Sun T4 box with Solaris VM's to run Oracle databases.
We considered Flash Pool but didn't have the budget. I understand we've not fully populated the appliance so we can add some flash later if we feel the need. With all those SAS spindles I'm not convinced we will.
We've moved our FAS2040 to our DR site and added a DS4234 shelf full of SATA disks. Our tape library has gone over to the DR site too, so we can backup to tape 24/7 without affecting day to day performance. Our nightly backups were starting to overrun into the mornings and were slowing things down quite a bit on occasion.
We've got pretty much the full software suite, including the VMWare tools, Snapmirror replication, Snapmanager for Exchange/SQL Server/Oracle etc.
Performance seems really good, especially over 10GbE. The SAN is in production, but we've not fully rolled out all the tools just yet and we're looking at getting rid/virtualising most of our remaining physical boxes - most of which are older Solaris machines. I'm currently setting up a Sun T4 box with Solaris VM's to run Oracle databases.
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Well just to resurrect this thread. The filers are in, and running.
Migrated all the data over the past week, and now they are in and running, we have so far peaked a mighty 6k iops on a single file transfer, and the filer wasn't even sweating.
They are monster monster good. And with good old De-dupe we are running at a rather tasty 50% saving.
Migrated all the data over the past week, and now they are in and running, we have so far peaked a mighty 6k iops on a single file transfer, and the filer wasn't even sweating.
They are monster monster good. And with good old De-dupe we are running at a rather tasty 50% saving.