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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/10354527/Labour-accused-of-cover-up-over-failing-hospitals.html

Internal emails from the Care Quality Commission show that Labour tried to stop the watchdog from informing the public about failings at Basildon University Hospital, where patients were dying needlessly on filthy wards.

The dossier of emails, released under Freedom of Information, state that Andy Burnham, the then Health Secretary, was "furious" when "graphic details" of the care failings became public.

Separate emails suggest that Mike O'Brien, the former Labour minister of state for health, told the NHS watchdog that "anything you do is political" in the run up to the General Election.

Executives at the watchdog decided that "given the political environment" a report into standards of care across the country should be "largely positive".
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The emails will increase pressure on Mr Burnham, who is now shadow health secretary, amid speculation that he is to be moved to a different portfolio in an imminent Labour reshuffle.
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Labour playing politics, surely not.
 
Well if plans to close the Redditch Alexandria A+E go ahead, if I ever call an ambulance, instead of being an 8 minute drive to the nearest emergency ward, it will be a 40 minute one to worcester royal. The worcester royal which is already over capacity and struggling with funding.

Its appauling. These reforms WILL cost lives.
 
Xordium said:
And the Tories are no better which is exactly the reason something this important should not be changed and controlled to suit the whim of ANY politician.
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At the same time we cant really have a public body funded by taxation that doesn't have political oversight.
 
kindai said:
Well if plans to close the Redditch Alexandria A+E go ahead, if I ever call an ambulance, instead of being an 8 minute drive to the nearest emergency ward, it will be a 40 minute one to worcester royal. The worcester royal which is already over capacity and struggling with funding.

Its appauling. These reforms WILL cost lives.
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Where as under Labour it did cost lives.
 
After experiencing the US care system for my family, the NHS is definitely something worth saving. Most people just take it for granted and don't realise how good it actually is for what we pay.
 
RDM said:
At the same time we cant really have a public body funded by taxation that doesn't have political oversight.
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I didn't say it shouldn't have political oversight. As it stands they don't have political oversight they have a direct say in hiring and firing, local service decisions and nation policy - all of which they are ill equipped to do and all of which benefit from informed rationale long term visions. What politicians should be doing and have failed for 50 years to do is to actually decide what the service should do.

Oldcoal's endless rhetoric is a perfect example of why something so important should be depoliticalised.
 
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ather-than-work-for-private-firm-9931763.html

An NHS hospital has been forced to scrap highly rated services for patients with severe skin conditions including skin cancer after an “exodus” of senior doctors reluctant to work for a private-sector subcontractor.

Nottingham University Hospitals Trust said it would no longer be able to provide acute adult dermatology, including emergency care, after losing six of its eight consultants.

Five of those departing are understood to have left rather than transfer to Circle, a private healthcare company which won a contract to provide most of the local dermatology services last year.
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Prime Minister - this is how I dare say you don't care about the NHS.
 
United Lincolnshire Hospitals A&E depts have been on the verge of collapse for a while now - often they have to incite major incident status due to understaffing and excessive demand.

Part of the issue is we really need to educate people not to use A&E for things that aren't an Accident or Emergency....you know, the clue is in the name...
 
The problem is though a lot of people can't get to see a GP at a convenient time or in a timely fashion. Also what differing people class as an emergency is open to debate especially when it comes to immigrants.
 
True, though there are still a lot that are weeded out from the intial triage that are just wholly innappropriate, my partner works in one of the main A&E's and the stories I hear would make you want to weep...for the wrong reasons.

Though I am sure you have plenty of examples of your own :)
 
Freakbro said:
Though I am sure you have plenty of examples of your own :)
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A friend I met over Xmas had a good one. Young overweight black lad went to a East London A+E with pain in his left thumb and when examined the end was all excoriated and bloody. He was asked how it happened to which he relied non-stop Xbox over Xmas. He asked what they could do to help him to which the triage nurse replied quite obviously stop playing Xbox.
 
500,000 new people coming to the UK every year and no big hospitals being built(yes the QE) is anyone really surprised?

What we need to do is pay the nurses more and try harder to keep them.
 
I'd imagine the answer being "They'll get sued" but why don't the A&E departments just turn the time-wasters away.

"A bad case of dandruff? Hop it!"

Has anyone gone to A&E with dandruff? I don't know.
 
joey1211 said:
I'd imagine the answer being "They'll get sued" but why don't the A&E departments just turn the time-wasters away.

"A bad case of dandruff? Hop it!"

Has anyone gone to A&E with dandruff? I don't know.
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I've seen two 20-25 year olds as drunk as a lords and crying none stop on the ward I was on.

They should be charged £500 for being looked after.
 
The NHS does need reforming. The trouble is having a government that is actually able to do it, rather than tinkering in a damaging fashion because they're chasing headlines and votes.
 
Do we know how many of the cases that missed the target were urgent? How many of them should not have been A&E cases? When improper use of A&E is increasing it is no surprise that the service is under strain.

Perhaps this is an indication of triage working correctly - the bare statistic simply doesn't tell enough.

Xordium said:
The problem is though a lot of people can't get to see a GP at a convenient time or in a timely fashion.
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While I can't speak for all regions, everywhere I know of seems to have rather good out of hours care. You might need to travel to get there, but it's quite possibly in the same hospital as the A&E department.

Is out of hours care so poor in so many regions that it hurts A&E? Or are people using A&E in preference to out of hours?

Some GPs are a problem for regular care, but as a private sector business (shock horror!) the NHS can't force them to take on more patients or open new practices. Our GP practice is great and you can always get a duty doctor (and always a same day appointment if you call at 8am). My parent's local GP is crap and there can be a couple of days before you get an appointment. But they have no capacity to expand and (despite oodles of housebuilding near them) nobody has come forward to open an new practice.

Maybe running a GP practice isn't worthwhile enough financially...

Also what differing people class as an emergency is open to debate especially when it comes to immigrants.
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Vote UKIP/BNP to save the NHS?
 
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