SC Chaos Theory ~ Safe to install?

titaniumx3 · 12 Jul 2006 at 17:20

I've been wanting to install this for a long time but I'm worried the starforce drivers will screw up my newly built system. I currently have 2xsata drives in raid-0 (nforce 4 ultra controller), 1xpata drive and 1xdvd-rw (asus drw-1608p). I'm especially worried because I've read reports of starforce interfering with raid arrays! :eek:

Sould I take the risk? Is there anyway to run the game without starforce? Are UBI planning to re-release the game with a different copy protection system?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

chris06 · 12 Jul 2006 at 19:12

There are no legal ways to play the game without starforce so if you want to play the game you will have to risk it. The majoroty of people dont have any issues with starforce and a lot of the time starforce is not to blame for the problems that users report.

i'm not saying that its not to blame for some problems but most of the time its people just reading what others have said and asume that starfore has caused their problem.

afaik Ubisoft have no plans to re release the game so its tough.

spinna · 12 Jul 2006 at 19:13

is starforce really that bad?
ive got splinter cell - chaos theory myself and i was gonna install it this week. maybe i should give it a miss?

XPE · 12 Jul 2006 at 19:36

I think since Ubisoft dump starforce all newly printed games dont come with it, seeing as how they no longer have the license

Roduga · 12 Jul 2006 at 22:00

As already said, you want the game you put up with it. My old PC was fine with it, my new one needed some post-starforce repairs but it hasn't happened since.

titaniumx3 · 12 Jul 2006 at 23:56

Roduga said:
As already said, you want the game you put up with it. My old PC was fine with it, my new one needed some post-starforce repairs but it hasn't happened since.

Care to elaborate on those "post-starforce" repairs?

Darkwave · 13 Jul 2006 at 00:11

Please stop saying it's legal to use no-CD cracks and software that bypasses the Starforce protection as long as you own the original game, because you are talking out of your back-side and have obviously never read an EULA in your entire life.

Now that's out of the way; So long as the copy of Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory you are installing is genuine, then just go ahead and install it. Sometimes the crappy Starforce drivers may cause a disc drive to temporarily stop responding, but it's simple to remove them in that (rare) case.

chris06 · 13 Jul 2006 at 00:17

Úlfhednar said:
Please stop saying it's legal to use no-CD cracks and software that bypasses the Starforce protection as long as you own the original game, because you are talking out of your back-side and have obviously never read an EULA in your entire life.

Now that's out of the way; So long as the copy of Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory you are installing is genuine, then just go ahead and install it. Sometimes the crappy Starforce drivers may cause a disc drive to temporarily stop responding, but it's simple to remove them in that (rare) case.

couldn't have said it better myself

Yewen · 13 Jul 2006 at 00:45

Úlfhednar said:
Please stop saying it's legal to use no-CD cracks and software that bypasses the Starforce protection as long as you own the original game, because you are talking out of your back-side and have obviously never read an EULA in your entire life.

Completely true.

You also seem to have not read the forum FAQ which outlines the rules on this talk:

No links or requests for "warez"
Providing or asking for information regarding "warez", "gamez" or any other software protected by copyright is forbidden. This includes discussion of 'chipped' or modified games consoles.

Keep the discussion of this off the forums, it is totally illegal to modify anything but Open Source software, and even then some portions of the product may be copyrighted to an individual still so you may need their consent.

It most certainly is not legal to crack games, or bypass any type of copy protection.

v0n · 13 Jul 2006 at 01:20

it is illegal as you HAVE to modify copyrighted code to circumvent the copy protection. FF.

Darkwave · 13 Jul 2006 at 01:33

A no-CD crack changes the code in the game .exe file to circumvent copy protection, and is illegal. End of discussion.

Yewen · 13 Jul 2006 at 01:47

Úlfhednar said:
A no-CD crack changes the code in the game .exe file to circumvent copy protection, and is illegal. End of discussion.

Yup, so nobody try to say otherwise on here, if you think otherwise email me about it.

ScarySquirrel · 13 Jul 2006 at 03:02

spinna said:
is starforce really that bad?
ive got splinter cell - chaos theory myself and i was gonna install it this week. maybe i should give it a miss?

I never had any problems, Its a great game, just play it

m4cc45 · 13 Jul 2006 at 08:47

Sadly this is the game that killed my PC.

After the restart to install the drivers (and it doesn't even ask if you want to install them - it just does it and theres no EULA, T&C, etc. to read before it installs them which is dubious).

If you have alcohol installed or daemon tools (both legal to own and use programs before anyone goes off on one) then you'll encounter issues.

After the restart I had a lot of blue screens with the event log (when I manged to get on there using various third party utils) pointed to the starforce dll's.

Anyway that's just my experience. I hate it and now actively avoid games using this protection. For me it's sad that people who pirate games get less ill effects than legitimate buyers.

Macca

sniffy · 13 Jul 2006 at 08:55

m4cc45 said:
For me it's sad that people who pirate games get less ill effects than legitimate buyers.

Unfortunely, this is very true.

Wayn0r · 13 Jul 2006 at 09:20

Install it but dont run it, download the latest patch, it gets rid of starforce.

Roduga · 13 Jul 2006 at 10:34

titaniumx3 said:
Care to elaborate on those "post-starforce" repairs?

Unfortunately I can't comment.

Trixter · 13 Jul 2006 at 10:56

Never had any problems myself apart from i didnt enjoy the game (chaos theory) Ive also got Toca 3 installed right now (think that uses starforce too ?) and no problems, i also have alcohol and deamon tools installed.

Limenote · 13 Jul 2006 at 12:19

installed it on multiple pc's its a great game and ive never had a single problem with starforce, though i wish more developers where like bethesda and just packed it with none what so ever.

Darkwave · 13 Jul 2006 at 12:47

Xink said:
installed it on multiple pc's its a great game and ive never had a single problem with starforce, though i wish more developers where like bethesda and just packed it with none what so ever.

That would definitely be nice. While I openly bash people who encourage others to avert copy protection, I am still rather cheesed off that developers have so much mistrust they must take it out on everybody and not just the criminals.

What Bethesda did for The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion was a step in the right direction for sure. Now if only they would add their own official no-CD crack to a future patch, my DVD-RW drive is so loud when it spins up.