Scam or world changing technology?

singist said:
I've been reading some of the posts on their forum and have extracted various bits and pieces that MAY be of interest to some of the posters in this thread:

Again, I am just passing this on; I am not endorsing it or trying to convince anyone.


Some people wanted patent numbers; I found this page with links to the European Patent Office; is that what you wanted?:

http://www.keshefoundation.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=4605#p4605

Some cut and paste paragraphs regarding the financial stuff:

For the past six years we have used the international patent system to make sure that every nation and major scientists around the world have a copy of our patents in their possession. (Please check the European patent and international servers downloads for number of downloads)

The principal point is that our technology is intended to be freely available to every government for the benefit of all its citizens. Through the systems we have developed every nation can have access to as much energy, water and food as they need, as well as to new methods of health care and of transport, all at very little cost.

According to its charter the Keshe Foundation and all its technologies are owned by the peoples of the world. The patents are the assets of every individual on this planet and cannot be claimed by any one person or organization or nation. This means that all income generated by the technology belongs to the nation that makes use of it.

The Keshe Foundation takes no account of color, nationality, religion or political affiliation, thus our call is going out to every government to appoint a team of scientists to come and see our technologies at first hand. Then they can decide whether or not to make use of them.

Therefore from 21.4.2012 the Space technology and all Know-how’s of the Keshe Foundation are directly offered and are made available freely for transfer to world governments.

From this point on it is the responsibility of the nations to bring the space, health, food and the energy discoveries and technologies developed by the Keshe Foundation to their citizens.

For all these presentations we will invite leading world specialists in their fields to bring the present knowledge in their fields of expertise and compare it with our developments.
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Mate, seriously ask yourself why is he charging for his books or his generators then? If he is to make all his stuff freely available why not put the plans for the generator on his website and send them to every media outlet on the planet? €20000 plus €350 a year maintenance is a very expensive free product.

Tbh you are making yourself look affiliated with this Keshe scam. Just google Keshe scam even the cranks at ATS and Godlike Productions think is crap and that's saying something. It does not take any scientific knowledge to see that this or any types of these things are a scam, any company with truly breakthrough tech would never ever have to ask for money, whith his claims there are awards worth millions and millions being offered by the likes of spaceX and Virgin. So stop going on about how people should read the site and how about you do some research yourself, google "conservation of energy" and "thermodynamics" should be a starting point.
 
Lt_Red said:
The objects mass. There is no mavity in effect here, except the mavity relating to the mass of the object. The rubber sheet is purely a means to enable you to imagine the effect in 2 dimensions.

If you imagine the earth being the first ball, its mass causing a bend in the rubber proportional to its mass and then rolling a second smaller ball (like the moon) around the dent in the rubber sheet - with mavity, the smaller ball will not enter "orbit" it will eventually roll down to the mass object (the earth in this case).

Now dispel mavity and imagine that ball does actually orbit the mass and that it too makes a blemish on the "sheet" and these two blemishes affect one another proportional to their respective mass. Then imagine all the planets and their respective masses in the solar system, galaxy, universe and beyond also doing the same thing to the sheet - and you will be just starting to think in 3 dimensions.

When you start adding that each mass is operating in different planes and there are in fact infinity "sheets" (or no sheets at all), then you are a step away from being a mathematician, or a cosmetologist, or like me, are old and have smoked too many funny cigarettes in your youth.

This is not rocket science y'know ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_relativity
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I actually already am a mathematician, I just like pointing out where analogies like the ball in the rubber sheet thing start to fall down. In the analogy, the earth's own mavity is pulling the ball down, which makes it a slightly tautological way to explain mavity. It's like trying to define a word and using the word you're trying to define in the definition. In fact, space curvature which results in gravitational effects more accurately looks like a boring set of equations written in chalk on a blackboard. Usually in indecipherable handwriting because science academics are not known for their calligraphy skill. But you can't present that to a layman and expect him to understand it, so the heavy ball on a rubber sheet thing will have to do.

I thought the troll face I posted under that spoiler would give away the fact I was being a teensy bit facetious. :p

The fact is, mavity may well have something to do with magnetism, just as magnetism and electricity are basically different manifestations of the same fundamental force. But if such a link had actually been proven, as the guy writing this website claims, then someone would be getting a Nobel prize for it.
 
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