Schools - LOST THE PLOT?

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I think there are underlying issues here. The issue is not the kid's haircut since it does not actually cause any issues. What is causing issue is peoples views of the kid's haircut. Teachers are probably jealous their kids don't look as good as yours. They're afraid of the confidence it may bring to your child in an environment where kids need confidence, maybe their children lack confidence. They're jealous of the attention he will get from the opposite sex which they didn't get with their crappy plain hairstyles when they were in school. and so on...

Just to summarise, the issue here is not actually your son.

I'm quoting that just for hilarity.

Not sure if you're drunk or something but that is by far the most delusional thing I've read.

Also it comes off as you're attracted to his son.
 
I think there are underlying issues here. The issue is not the kid's haircut since it does not actually cause any issues. What is causing issue is peoples views of the kid's haircut. Teachers are probably jealous their kids don't look as good as yours. They're afraid of the confidence it may bring to your child in an environment where kids need confidence, maybe their children lack confidence. They're jealous of the attention he will get from the opposite sex which they didn't get with their crappy plain hairstyles when they were in school. and so on...

Just to summarise, the issue here is not actually your son.

Have you been sniffing tipex thinners at the back of the classroom?

That's a rather weird (and might I add a touch creepy) conclusion to have reached.
 
asim18 said:
I think there are underlying issues here. The issue is not the kid's haircut since it does not actually cause any issues. What is causing issue is peoples views of the kid's haircut. Teachers are probably jealous their kids don't look as good as yours. They're afraid of the confidence it may bring to your child in an environment where kids need confidence, maybe their children lack confidence. They're jealous of the attention he will get from the opposite sex which they didn't get with their crappy plain hairstyles when they were in school. and so on...

Just to summarise, the issue here is not actually your son.

Cannot compile sentence...

pepsilol said:
Not sure if you're drunk or something but that is by far the most delusional thing I've read.
+1. Don't start on asim, he will get out the AK...:D.

Back in the day. If that had been my school the very next day 500 boys would have turned up with the same hair cut.

Try and Isolate that many.

Pathetic, grow up. What kind of attitude is that?


School should be ashamed that they backed down, I can't quite understand how the parents didn't think there was something wrong with that hair style, look at it. Nothing personal to your kid, but the haircut I mean come on you actually got to be kidding you think that it is acceptable? The only place that would be acceptable in a place of work would be a hairdresser at best.
 
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School should be ashamed that they backed down, I can't quite understand how the parents didn't think there was something wrong with that hair style, look at it. Nothing personal to your kid, but the haircut I mean come on you actually got to be kidding you think that it is acceptable? The only place that would be acceptable in a place of work would be a hairdresser at best.

Remember, judging a person by their looks is subjective. You clearly don't approve, I do approve and think it looks cool. Different strokes for different folks. It's just a bloody haircut at the end of the day and it's his hair not yours or anyone else's and he should be able to style it however he wants. In my humble subjective opinion. ;)
 
Exactly, the school is an place of education, the haircut is not extreme and doesnt cause offense to anybody. Surely having short hair of the side of his head doesnt mean that he cannot learn safely in class without disruption to others - why punish him for it!

I'm not arguing with the fact that the hair is shorter than what the school deems acceptable, shortness is objective, maybe make it more clear with an objective min lenght for hair, and then everybody knows clearly.

But my point still remains, do not punish him for it.

I agree with you that punishing him is stupid. But you said shortness is objective but so too is 'extremity' I personally think that haircut is a bit extreme for a 12 year old, and actually any child of any age at school. That's my opinion though and it's clearly the opinion of the school.

Btw as a side, does your son enjoy his haircut? Different strokes for different folks and all that but I think that looks horrendous.
 
"Rules are all well and good, it's important we have rules to maintain laws and standards.....well until I disagree with them of course, then they are stupid and I do as I please and woe be tired anyone who picks me up on it. I have rights, you can't tell me what to do, it's a free country etc etc etc"

That is the real issue here and for me a big part of why our country has such diminished standards, principles and entitlement culture. The hair cut is not the issue, looks bloody stupid to me but I am neither offended or upset about it, but then I am not running the school or making the rules. Schools of all places need standards in my opinion, they need rules and to stand for something and frankly you either get on board or rebel. If you rebel however they can do what they feel is appropriate and that is what happened here.

Sorry Ace, Ive little sympathy for your predicament as the hair is not the test here, it's the fact you took the first sentence literally.
 
They should expel him on the grounds of how silly it looks.

This flies in the wind of pro-authoritarian stances but something similar happened with a student shaving their hair because it was crazily hot. 30 odd other people subsequently shaved their heads in a show of solidarity and the school quietly dropped the issue and updated their dress policy. Anarchy in the UK... Or not.
 
Rules are only good if they make sense. Punishing a kid because his parents gave him the "wrong haircut" falls firmly into the category of stupid rules. What possible evil do they imagine might result from a child having an unusual haircut?
 
Rules are only good if they make sense. Punishing a kid because his parents gave him the "wrong haircut" falls firmly into the category of stupid rules. What possible evil do they imagine might result from a child having an unusual haircut?

Make sense to who, you?
 
To any right-minded human being.

Ah right, so what determines a right mind? We all interpret things differently, we all prioritise things differently, this forum shows we all disagree on many many things. To focus on the hair really is to miss the point. Right minded depends on the mind and as I said above.

Don't like the rules change them, don't ignore them and do as your please an expect no recourse if you do. Move schools, go to the press, do what you think helps you get your point across, don't use your son as a pawn in the game. Make his hair as the school asks and then spend time telling the world how stupid the rule is, I'm not arguing the rule is sensible, that isn't the play here.

Right way and wrong way to do these things, doing as you please and moaning when you don't get your way is not the right way.
 
Ah right, so what determines a right mind? We all interpret things differently, we all prioritise things differently, this forum shows we all disagree on many many things. To focus on the hair really is to miss the point. Right minded depends on the mind and as I said above.

Don't like the rules change them, don't ignore them and do as your please an expect no recourse if you do. Move schools, go to the press, do what you think helps you get your point across, don't use your son as a pawn in the game. Make his hair as the school asks and then spend time telling the world how stupid the rule is, I'm not arguing the rule is sensible, that isn't the play here.

Right way and wrong way to do these things, doing as you please and moaning when you don't get your way is not the right way.

There's no indication that that's what the OP did. Even if he'd read the website beforehand and found that particular rule written down, it's ambiguously worded. To a lot of people, myself included, "shaved" means shaved all the way, ie a grade 0 cut done with a razor. Just speaking for myself, it wouldn't have occurred to me that clipping hair to grade 1 or 2 could be interpreted as "shaving". If you're going to come down like a tonne of bricks for infringing a particular rule, you'd better make damn sure the rule is (a) written and communicated unambiguously, and (b) made widely known.

But what rankles most is the sheer arbitrary nature of that rule. There's simply no need for it, it's just a rule that exists for its own sake.
 
But what rankles most is the sheer arbitrary nature of that rule. There's simply no need for it, it's just a rule that exists for its own sake.

Indeed. Some clown has a thing about short hair and enforces his/her will on everyone with the threat of punishment if not adhered to. Absolute nonsense and just goes to show how utterly pathetic, sad and pointless some people are.
 
There's no indication that that's what the OP did. Even if he'd read the website beforehand and found that particular rule written down, it's ambiguously worded. To a lot of people, myself included, "shaved" means shaved all the way, ie a grade 0 cut done with a razor. Just speaking for myself, it wouldn't have occurred to me that clipping hair to grade 1 or 2 could be interpreted as "shaving". If you're going to come down like a tonne of bricks for infringing a particular rule, you'd better make damn sure the rule is (a) written and communicated unambiguously, and (b) made widely known.

But what rankles most is the sheer arbitrary nature of that rule. There's simply no need for it, it's just a rule that exists for its own sake.

But now the rule has been made clear, so what then?

We end up back here don't we....

"Rules are all well and good, it's important we have rules to maintain laws and standards.....well until I disagree with them of course, then they are stupid and I do as I please and woe be tired anyone who picks me up on it. I have rights, you can't tell me what to do, it's a free country etc etc etc"

I say again, it isn't about the rule, it's a straw and a camels back I suspect. Running a school is a nightmare and perhaps this wasn't the battle to fight for the school, but they have an incredibly hard job. Imagine the entire demographic of this site with kids. How often do we see MASSIVE bun fights about stuff that many find hilarious. Now elevate that to a school and parents and you see the challenge. What you think is a stupid rule is missing the problem, as I have said when you have schools with often hundreds of parents with many different opinions on all sorts of things....who all think they are right.
 
The irony of a school saying a kid can't have shaved hair when on the photo headers of their website they have a kid running in combat gear carrying a camo bergen ...
 
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