Screen Burn

S-H-A-N-E

S-H-A-N-E

S-H-A-N-E

Associate
Joined
7 Jan 2006
Posts
191
I am thinking about replacing my old sony 32 with the Pioneer PDP-436XDE , i have been put off by screen burn , can some one tell me how Screen Burn starts and can you Avoid this problem ?

Thanks
 
S-H-A-N-E said:
I am thinking about replacing my old sony 32 with the Pioneer PDP-436XDE , i have been put off by screen burn , can some one tell me how Screen Burn starts and can you Avoid this problem ?

Thanks
Click to expand...

Stationary images.

i.e. - Station tags, paused images, samesa images being on screen for a while.

Plasma's really suffer from this as far as I remember, LCD's don't really, CRT's are now very good as well.

Simon/~Flibster
 
Flibster said:
Stationary images.

i.e. - Station tags, paused images, samesa images being on screen for a while.

Plasma's really suffer from this as far as I remember, LCD's don't really, CRT's are now very good as well.

Simon/~Flibster
Click to expand...


I agree with what you have written.

But i will point out that my L90D+ (19" LCD monitor) has suffered from some screen burn. The Start menu and task bar in particuler. To prevent this i reguarly change the colour of the task bar and its position.
 
LCD monitors cannot suffer from "Burn" as the technology behind them simply doesn't allow it.
What you can get with an LCD is an "after image" which looks very similar to screen burn.
The difference is that if you leave the panel switched off for the same amount of time as the static image was on, or you blast some constantly moving images at the same area of the screen as the "after image" it will go away - no perm damage.

I have less than one year old CRT's with Windows 2000 login boxes burnt into the middle of them.
CRT's may have got better but they still are far from perfect and shouldn't be left with static images.

I've got no experience with plasma's new or old so cannot comment.
 
stoofa said:
LCD monitors cannot suffer from "Burn" as the technology behind them simply doesn't allow it.
What you can get with an LCD is an "after image" which looks very similar to screen burn.
The difference is that if you leave the panel switched off for the same amount of time as the static image was on, or you blast some constantly moving images at the same area of the screen as the "after image" it will go away - no perm damage.

I have less than one year old CRT's with Windows 2000 login boxes burnt into the middle of them.
CRT's may have got better but they still are far from perfect and shouldn't be left with static images.

I've got no experience with plasma's new or old so cannot comment.
Click to expand...


Thanks i did not know that. :)
 
stoofa said:
I've got no experience with plasma's new or old so cannot comment.
Click to expand...

Spoke to my friendly local TV repair man. :D

Plasma's suffer with screenburn massively. Longer than a couple of hours of a stationary image or part image could leave a mark - including watching 4:3 tv on a 16:9 screen with the black borders down each side.

Once again - I see no good reason to buy a plasma screen.

Simon/~Flibster
 
stoofa said:
LCD monitors cannot suffer from "Burn" as the technology behind them simply doesn't allow it.
What you can get with an LCD is an "after image" which looks very similar to screen burn.
The difference is that if you leave the panel switched off for the same amount of time as the static image was on, or you blast some constantly moving images at the same area of the screen as the "after image" it will go away - no perm damage.

I have less than one year old CRT's with Windows 2000 login boxes burnt into the middle of them.
CRT's may have got better but they still are far from perfect and shouldn't be left with static images.

I've got no experience with plasma's new or old so cannot comment.
Click to expand...

I agree CRT's shouldnt be this bad by now - but can I ask why are they not left off if not in use, or a little judicial use of power saving could also solve this?
 
Flibster said:
Once again - I see no good reason to buy a plasma screen.

Simon/~Flibster
Click to expand...


The standard def ones are cheap for what you get, im thinking about buying a 42" jobby for the bedroom. Doesnt have to be perfect and who cares about HD, and it will do its job of looking damn cool on my bedroom wall :D

For a main display - agreed :)
 
Duradrum said:
Because they offer a far superior image to LCD's?

Seriously. No LCD comes close to a good plasma. No question.
Click to expand...
In your opinion, this may be true

Not meaning to start an arguement but maybe some cant tell the difference of these "superior" qualities

Its very difficult to see in showroom conditions unless you spend a lot of time with one or two and they are actually set up right initially

My alltime want is a decent quality projector with a motorised screen but thats for when I have my own place and can dedicate a room to it (hopefully)
 
Last edited:
Screen burn is a very old issue, when Plasma were new out, more recent ones suffer much less if at all.......
Plus only when they are new, run them in without static images, and then they will be fine afterwards.

Never seen an LCD look any good on a Low Def picture, they blur, smear/lag. and look smudged.
Plasma on SD is far far better/very good.
HD Plasma also looks stunning .... Try a Pioneer screen or latest Panasonic

I can see no reason to buy a LCD !!!!!!

If my Panasonic 42PW6 plasma broke down.... I wouldn't think twice about staying with Plasma..... actualy wouldn't think at all. :)
 
Never had any problems with my 436xde.
I stupidly left sky+ paused for the missus to watch a tv program that was on, then went out. Over 1hr later I returned to find She had been in the garden all afternoon, and the TV was still paused!
Panic set in, and I thought, oh well thats knackered that.. but I turned it off, then turned it on and it was just like it never happened.

Follow the run-in info on AVforums there is a long thread about the 436 in there. very very informative.

I would not give up my panel now. its grrrrrreat!!


As an aside, I compared LCD and Plasma, and decided on the Plasma, IMO the image was far superior, and its spanking in HD with my xbox360.
 
We got some 42" plasmas in work displaying static images, they're left on 24hs a day and have been for the 18 months I've worked here.
weekends and nights we use 1 for tv / dvd and on a white screen image you can just see some burn, but like I say it's only just noticable on a white background.

I ont think burn is really an issue for everyday useage, especially if its only been left paused for a few hours....
 
FrankJH said:
I agree CRT's shouldnt be this bad by now - but can I ask why are they not left off if not in use, or a little judicial use of power saving could also solve this?
Click to expand...

Honest answer.....
Because I was bloody stupid and they were only 17" CRT's for use in our server room so no biggie :)
 
I've had my Pio 436XDE for 4 months now with heavy bouts of 360 gaming and kids watching cbeebies for hours on end and not once have i had screen burn. I would not trade this plasma for nothing, feed it a decent imput and the image is stunning.
 
My i ask all you pioneer owners , did you have to burn your screen in for around 300 hours ie turn the colour down ect or just use as normal

I am almost 100% sure of getting a pioneer plasma
 
S-H-A-N-E said:
My i ask all you pioneer owners , did you have to burn your screen in for around 300 hours ie turn the colour down ect or just use as normal

I am almost 100% sure of getting a pioneer plasma
Click to expand...

I ran mine at a lower contrast and brightness etc for the first 200 hours and never had a problem they are cracking screen. Which pio screen are you looking at getting?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom