Second TX or go G-Sync

[Dirk Diggler]

G-Sync is the dugs nuts.

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

Ok thanks again, mind made up I'll go for the GSync.
Best do my homework on this Acer to see if I should wait for not.

 

[Kirby Wurm]

Hmm, a second TX if money is no object.

Personally I find G-sync superb but couldn't use it without 120/144hz, the two work hand in hand incredibly well. The jump to a monitor supporting both made the biggest qualitative difference to my gaming experience since my first SSD back in early 2011.

 

[Disco_P]

G-Sync. Cause **** everything about multi card setups.

But explain to me how you can tolerate 30fps over turning a few settings down.

 

[Neil King]

Whats exactly wrong with the Acer Predator 4k G Sync?

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

G-Sync. Cause **** everything about multi card setups.

But explain to me how you can tolerate 30fps over turning a few settings down.

Not every game, things like Witcher play well at 30FPS+, first person games however I need more.
Witcher has been the only game that I've been unable to get 60FPS+

Whats exactly wrong with the Acer Predator 4k G Sync?

Something to do with the after sales service and dead pixels and screens upon arrival by the looks of it....

 

[VEGACORTEZ]

Not every game, things like Witcher play well at 30FPS+, first person games however I need more.
Witcher has been the only game that I've been unable to get 60FPS+



Something to do with the after sales service and dead pixels and screens upon arrival by the looks of it....

I have the Acer g-sync monitor and have owned your sammy as well. The response times are top quality TN much faster than the sammy and no overdrive issues. The input lag is as low as you can get and faster than the sammy. The calibrated image was great as well, not a lot different to the sammy. Not a heavy anti glare filter either.

As i have 2 TX's though i have ditched the Acer for a 32" Asus IPS. Witcher 3, DA inquisition, GTA V to name a few run at ultra 60fps pretty much all the time so no need for g-sync really for me. Plus g-sync can't alter the fact that low fps are laggier and have more motion blur even though the judder is gone.

For me 1 TX is not enough for 4k ultra even with g-sync it's just too low a fps but that's just my preference.

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

I have the Acer g-sync monitor and have owned your sammy as well. The response times are top quality TN much faster than the sammy and no overdrive issues. The input lag is as low as you can get and faster than the sammy. The calibrated image was great as well, not a lot different to the sammy. Not a heavy anti glare filter either.

As i have 2 TX's though i have ditched the Acer for a 32" Asus IPS. Witcher 3, DA inquisition, GTA V to name a few run at ultra 60fps pretty much all the time so no need for g-sync really for me. Plus g-sync can't alter the fact that low fps are laggier and have more motion blur even though the judder is gone.

For me 1 TX is not enough for 4k ultra even with g-sync it's just too low a fps but that's just my preference.

Always good to hear thanks for the input helpful when someone else has taken the same steps.
So in your opinion get a second TX and stick with the Sammy, I'm not fussed about the golden 60fps as long as its smooth which GSync seems to achieve, but another TX will future proof me I suppose.
Though saying that theres nothing more annoying than spending another 900quid on a GPU and the drivers don't give you SLI, they very reason I moved from AMD.

 

[wunkley]

Always good to hear thanks for the input helpful when someone else has taken the same steps.
So in your opinion get a second TX and stick with the Sammy, I'm not fussed about the golden 60fps as long as its smooth which GSync seems to achieve, but another TX will future proof me I suppose.
Though saying that theres nothing more annoying than spending another 900quid on a GPU and the drivers don't give you SLI, they very reason I moved from AMD.

It's not just driver issues per se either, and although SLI is considered better than crossfire generally, sometimes SLI just will not get on with some games with regards to stutter and microstutter. Out of the games I currently own/ play the following just flat out stutter with 2 cards, no matter what, and the only way to play them smoothly is to use one card...

- Far cry 3 (not got 4 yet, but from what I've heard it's simialr)
- Titanfall
- Watchdogs
- Crysis 2 with MaldoHD mod (weird one that!)

Make of that what you will, there are bound to be others that I haven't got or played.

There are other games I have where I've had to write little readme files with personal notes and tweaks for getting 2 cards to run smooth. These currently include off the top of my head (there are more)

- GTA5
- Witcher 3
- Skyrim
- BF4
- Bioshock Infinite
- GTA4

Interestingly, a lot of these have needed special tweaks and attention since getting my Gsync Rog Swift. Although Gsync is a 'fix' for some games in terms of dropped frames and vsync type 'judders', it is not a cure for stutter or microstutter WHEN YOU HAVE SLI, in certain games. It can actually make some games feel worse when stutters happen, because it's so smooth normally it exacerbates it.

Take GTA5 as one working example, as it's new. This is what I have to do to get perfectly smooth gameplay using 2 780Ti's in SLI, along with my Gsync Rog Swift:

- Set the ingame HZ setting to 60 (which is actually listed as 59 bizarrely)
- Use bandicam or Dxtory to limit the framerate to 59

If I run the screen at 120Hz, or 144Hz it is jittery as hell. If I try any other combination of framerate limiter number it is jittery as hell. It's a weird but odd fix and just one example. Other games (like Skyrim with ENB) need different and sometimes far more elaborate tweaks and workarounds!

Having said all that I still love Gsync. One powerful card and Gsync is amazing

 

[Arcane]

Get a Swift and another Titan, pure bliss.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Though saying that theres nothing more annoying than spending another 900quid on a GPU and the drivers don't give you SLI, they very reason I moved from AMD.

This. And as Wunkley says, sometimes it's not a driver issue. I've split my 980s and put one in my second rig, and it'll stay as my second GPU fur years to come hopefully.

My main rig has only one 980 in it now, and I'll regularly upgrade to keep one single card in there. It's not just SLI compatibility in games that's the issue, there also anomalies when you run SLI with Gsync.

Also, when it comes to upgrading it's a softer hit with only one card to lose a % on.

Just my opinion.

 

[wunkley]

Aye, some good points there String.

Thing is, I'm doing a new separate gaming specific build soon. I'm pretty certain now it will feature just the one 980Ti to start with.
BUT, I have a terrible itch to try 4k, so then I will have no choice but to add another 980Ti, and the whole sorry saga will start again for me

 

[VEGACORTEZ]

Always good to hear thanks for the input helpful when someone else has taken the same steps.
So in your opinion get a second TX and stick with the Sammy, I'm not fussed about the golden 60fps as long as its smooth which GSync seems to achieve, but another TX will future proof me I suppose.
Though saying that theres nothing more annoying than spending another 900quid on a GPU and the drivers don't give you SLI, they very reason I moved from AMD.

If money is not an issue another gpu is nice and if your happy with the response times and input lag of the sammy it's a really nice TN monitor when calibrated, can't fault it in that regard even compared to IPS directly viewed. The only thing in my mind is the pascal gpu's due out maybe next year with that new memory (sounds good for high res gaming) and perhaps a hell of a lot more power. One of those would maybe be enough for 4k who knows. Only you know what you can afford upgrade wise and how often but those new gpu's might be something special. At least 1 TX can guarantee ultra 30fps or more in games which is nice. Below 30fps on dead rising 3 with 1 titan black was painfull.

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

It's not just driver issues per se either, and although SLI is considered better than crossfire generally, sometimes SLI just will not get on with some games with regards to stutter and microstutter. Out of the games I currently own/ play the following just flat out stutter with 2 cards, no matter what, and the only way to play them smoothly is to use one card...

- Far cry 3 (not got 4 yet, but from what I've heard it's simialr)
- Titanfall
- Watchdogs
- Crysis 2 with MaldoHD mod (weird one that!)

Make of that what you will, there are bound to be others that I haven't got or played.

There are other games I have where I've had to write little readme files with personal notes and tweaks for getting 2 cards to run smooth. These currently include off the top of my head (there are more)

- GTA5
- Witcher 3
- Skyrim
- BF4
- Bioshock Infinite
- GTA4

Interestingly, a lot of these have needed special tweaks and attention since getting my Gsync Rog Swift. Although Gsync is a 'fix' for some games in terms of dropped frames and vsync type 'judders', it is not a cure for stutter or microstutter WHEN YOU HAVE SLI, in certain games. It can actually make some games feel worse when stutters happen, because it's so smooth normally it exacerbates it.

Take GTA5 as one working example, as it's new. This is what I have to do to get perfectly smooth gameplay using 2 780Ti's in SLI, along with my Gsync Rog Swift:

- Set the ingame HZ setting to 60 (which is actually listed as 59 bizarrely)
- Use bandicam or Dxtory to limit the framerate to 59

If I run the screen at 120Hz, or 144Hz it is jittery as hell. If I try any other combination of framerate limiter number it is jittery as hell. It's a weird but odd fix and just one example. Other games (like Skyrim with ENB) need different and sometimes far more elaborate tweaks and workarounds!

Having said all that I still love Gsync. One powerful card and Gsync is amazing

A lot of good points there about running 2 cards, most of which I've come across before myself.

Get a Swift and another Titan, pure bliss.

I could never go down to 1440 after using 4k, it'd be like watching TV wearing swimming goggles. Once you've used it you'd see why, you'll rather game at 40/60fps in 4k than 120 at 1440. It's hard to explain.

If money is not an issue another gpu is nice and if your happy with the response times and input lag of the sammy it's a really nice TN monitor when calibrated, can't fault it in that regard even compared to IPS directly viewed. The only thing in my mind is the pascal gpu's due out maybe next year with that new memory (sounds good for high res gaming) and perhaps a hell of a lot more power. One of those would maybe be enough for 4k who knows. Only you know what you can afford upgrade wise and how often but those new gpu's might be something special. At least 1 TX can guarantee ultra 30fps or more in games which is nice. Below 30fps on dead rising 3 with 1 titan black was painfull.

Imo 30fps is the minimum you want to see. FPS games you need a lot more. My TX does this well so far as you said, I just want a little more bang for my buck in Witcher 3, it runs well locked at 30fps with Vsync on, but will Gsync be even better running my gpus max fps at high 30s?

I could upgrade gpus again next year no problem, I'd like a solution for now though, obviously I'd rather spend 500 quid on Gsync than 900 on another TX if it'll give me the same smooth experience, I don't like cutting corners though.

 

[VEGACORTEZ]

G-sync looks best at 45fps and upward. Under 40fps and you start to get that 30fps style of motion when panning which makes me feel ill, getting worse the closer you get to 30. At 45 fps it still looks nice like 60fps in motion just with more motion blur. 40fps is the lowest limit for motion to still look pretty good. So in short no it's not worth it to run with 7 or so more fps over 30fps.

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

Just a little update to this thread.

Recent patches and drivers meant TW2 now runs around 40/45 FPS average and I've got my G-Sync monitor and I'm very impressed with it, certainly lives up to the hype. I'm going to go as far and say it "feels" like I've added another TX to my system it certainly feels around 80% smoother than it did. Well worth the outlay.

Thanks for the posts!

 

[ltron]

G-sync is a real advancement in terms of smoothness according to the reviews, so I'd get that. Since SLI can introduce micro stutter you may actually get a better experience with one Titan X and a g-sync monitor.

Edit: just saw that you got a g-sync monitor, glad it lives up to the hype.