Section 59

I got stopped 2 days after I took delivery of my first M3 when driving late at night in Leicester because "I looked out of place" and 3 days after I got my GT3 for accelerating hard out of the toll boths on the Midlands Expressway where 2 plod spent 15 mins sitting in said car and having a chat. Both times they were fine with me to be fair and we had a crack but I could also have had Hitler who may have decided to play the ego game.
 
what a bunch of numptys clearly envy got the better of him and he has now decided to make your life hell. Can you not goto the ipc with this sort of harrasment.
 
Update: Denied.

His sergeant called me today after receiving my letter. Apparently the officer had to brake to allow me in which A) was not mentioned at the time and B) utter bull****.

Apparently these are usually accompanied by a court summons for careless driving so I've been "treated fairly" and I could pursue it further in a civil court where it'll come down to my word vs. his.

No interest in the fellers who lobbed a bottle at the car and since the first post I've been stopped twice as "routine". Bit odd that I've never had an issue *before* having a S59 logged against me.

doesnt suprise me

and we all know if it goes to court they'll believe him. Section 59 is a ******* joke.
 
I got stopped 2 days after I took delivery of my first M3 when driving late at night in Leicester because "I looked out of place" and 3 days after I got my GT3 for accelerating hard out of the toll boths on the Midlands Expressway where 2 plod spent 15 mins sitting in said car and having a chat. Both times they were fine with me to be fair and we had a crack but I could also have had Hitler who may have decided to play the ego game.

Didnt know they were around at the exits from the Midlands raceway! Thought you were clear until rejoining the main motorway. :o

Saying that I dont use it because its so ruddy expensive! Especially in the van!
 
I got stopped 2 days after I took delivery of my first M3 when driving late at night in Leicester because "I looked out of place" and 3 days after I got my GT3 for accelerating hard out of the toll boths on the Midlands Expressway where 2 plod spent 15 mins sitting in said car and having a chat. Both times they were fine with me to be fair and we had a crack but I could also have had Hitler who may have decided to play the ego game.

The last two stops have been fine, no attitude problems anyway, just letting me know they are around I guess. I overtook the wrong guy I think.

what a bunch of numptys clearly envy got the better of him and he has now decided to make your life hell. Can you not goto the ipc with this sort of harrasment.

Steady on squire, it's not got to the stage I would consider harrassment, they just want a little bit of Japan in their day :)
 
I was pulled over for overtaking a line of traffic on my bike. I was doing much over the limit, but I wasn't given a warning for the speed of the overtake as they understood that overtaking quickly is important, what they wanted to check was insurance, legality of the can etc... but again they said the same thing, distress caused by my manoeuvre :/ I didn't understand really but I wasn't given a section 59?!
 
If being overtaken puts you in distress, you should NOT be driving, especially if you are such a nervous wreck that you drive so slowly.



My brother has been awarded a section 59 by post for wheelspin in one of the Puntos. My parents were dead pleased.
 
Didnt know they were around at the exits from the Midlands raceway! Thought you were clear until rejoining the main motorway. :o

Saying that I dont use it because its so ruddy expensive! Especially in the van!

I got pulled by an unmarked Scooby who was also exiting the tolls from the escape road. I caught him in the side of my vision and just had that feeling that it was not a normal punter so I eased off. He pulled me and had a chat about cars with pace leaving a busy toll both (it was empty) and suggesting that they have had problems with cars merging and they are just telling me to take care for future reference, no real issue. They then spent 15 minutes tyre kicking and having a sit in my car as most of the coppers who drive motorway and unmarked like cars and bikes and are only human, well with one or two exceptions.

I offered a race to them to next booth......they said no. Puffs!

...and I wasn't driving that quickly either.
 
I got a section 59 in my 306 GTI for hooning on a country road.

I think i remember him mentioning that it expires in 3 years.
 
If there was a coach up close behind him doing 60 on a single carriage road he should really have been pulling the bus for doing 20mph over it's speed limit.
 
Update: Denied.

Apparently these are usually accompanied by a court summons for careless driving so I've been "treated fairly" and I could pursue it further in a civil court where it'll come down to my word vs. his.


Are there other avenues of appeal you can try?

Might be worth waiting until 15 days after the offence before you do, so they can't then issue you with an NIP for something else?
 
Are there other avenues of appeal you can try?

Might be worth waiting until 15 days after the offence before you do, so they can't then issue you with an NIP for something else?

My letter was to his Sgt to ask if the warning could be reviewed and revoked so it was the first step. the next step is through civil court which will be a complete waste of time as it's pretty obvious to me the officer is going to stretch the truth after revealing he had to brake.

The letter stated the truth and I suspect that anyone reviewing it would raise an eyebrow as to why a S59 was required, maybe that was why he felt he had to embellish his version to his sergeant.

End of the day I overtook an unmarked car. Not the brightest move, but as I've had confirmed, safe.

If anything, I'll look on future posts about unfair convictions and warnings with a little more sympathy. Not about to change my driving.

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If there was a coach up close behind him doing 60 on a single carriage road he should really have been pulling the bus for doing 20mph over it's speed limit.

Give or take a few mph, I thought they were dawdling a bit, but I thought the limit was 50mph for coaches?

I was pulled over for overtaking a line of traffic on my bike. I was doing much over the limit, but I wasn't given a warning for the speed of the overtake as they understood that overtaking quickly is important, what they wanted to check was insurance, legality of the can etc... but again they said the same thing, distress caused by my manoeuvre :/ I didn't understand really but I wasn't given a section 59?!

They have taken something that was designed for groups of lads being a nuisance in car parks and mini-bike riders on footpaths and are now using it as they see fit. The officer in question said it was the "manner" of the overtake and what *could" have happened i.e I *could* have caused alarm.

I didn't understand then and I still don't understand now.
 
Push it further, don't let them get away with it.

The copper clearly isn't doing his job properly, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie to his superior.

Keep going higher.
 
Push it further, don't let them get away with it.

The copper clearly isn't doing his job properly, otherwise he wouldn't have to lie to his superior.

Keep going higher.

Seems pointless, the copper is gonna lie and going to win, his word against yours.

Would cause a lot of stress for no real reason. I agree with the whole fight the good fight but sometimes it really is better to just accept things.
 
Yeah but if people just "accept" things, that's how it all starts to get out of hand.

Now this copper will just stop another motorist, who probably did nothing wrong, and have a go at them as well. Maybe even lie some more.

Is there really nothing that can be done?
 
Yeah but if people just "accept" things, that's how it all starts to get out of hand.

Now this copper will just stop another motorist, who probably did nothing wrong, and have a go at them as well. Maybe even lie some more.

Is there really nothing that can be done?

As noble as it'll be there is a 99% chance he'll still walk away, and the OP will have had to have made a case, taken time off work to go to court, pay fees etc....
 
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