Seen a Ghost?

I thought the word 'ghost' means that you can not see something? :confused: Or am I thinking too much about Ghost Recon?



iCraig said:
Precisely. I once pulled an all nighter doing work. I finally retired at 8.30am for some sleep. My eyes were sore and I was extremely tired. I saw a face in my window and when I blinked it had gone.

Obviously a mild hallucination, but some people would have that and then instantly say "I SAW A GHOST OMG GUARDIAN ANGLE WATCHING OVER ME!!"


When I havnt sleeped for about 3 days straight I see a little girl thought its probaiblly my imagination 'cos my freinds say they see it so Im guessing my mind makes it appear. Not on some drug crazed bender by the way. ;)
 
AcidHell2 said:
No, had loads of weird experiences though. Which can all be explained, however to someone who wants or does believe in ghosts etc would believe they seen something unnatural.


Flaming Satan in my room - Sleep paralysis
Doctors injecting me in my stomach - Sleep paralysis
died so many times, in loads of diffrent ways - sleep paralysis
A very unearthly scrapping noise when I was very young, scared the hell out of me -Turned out it was a birds nest in the loft above my bedroom.
Again when I was very young saw a weird object in the sky, that then shone a light in my room - Police helicopter, with a search light on.


Any off those experiences could be unnatural if I wanted to believe in ghosts and other such rubbish.

The mind is a complicated and very powerful thing. When it can't explain something it will and does clutch at straws.

Like blaming everything on sleep paralysis or similar? People always try to rationalise what they can't explain, the explainations chosen often reflect more about the person's faiths than anything else. If you have faith in science to answer everything, you'll find a scientific explaination, whether it's actually the truth or not...

I've experienced a lot of things that are unexplainable in our old house, all symptoms of classical hauntings, watching people try to rationalise that which cannot be, without either simply discarding evidence or coming up with something so convoluted it totally fails the occam's razor test anyway, is frequently quite entertaining.
 
Dolph said:
or coming up with something so convoluted it totally fails the occam's razor test anyway, is frequently quite entertaining.

I wouldn't say occam's razor is very definitive. It seems to me that people perhaps misapply it, for example saying that god is a simpler explanation than evolution, when in fact the concept of a god itself raises a whole lot more issues of complexity than evolution does. All that's really happened is the problem has been delegated to another level... In this case a scientific explanation for a ghost would require a lot of very strange and never recorded (probably) phenomena, compared to maybe a sequence of coincidental events, which although unlikely in any given place, are statistically expected overall to happen to someone somewhere.

It is true that some people are far too sceptical though imo, but you need true sceptics to make up a middle ground :p
 
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Zogger said:
I wouldn't say occam's razor is very definitive. It seems to me that people perhaps misapply it, for example saying that god is a simpler explanation than evolution, when in fact the concept of a god itself raises a whole lot more issues of complexity than evolution does. All that's really happened is the problem has been delegated to another level...

Occam's razor isn't at all definitive, it's a philosophical idea applied to the scientific method to make things easier to predict. It has nothing to do with what the truth definitely is. (Although evolution is certainly simpler than the god explaination, as evolution does the same thing with a fewer number of entities).

It is true that some people are far too sceptical though imo, but you need true sceptics to make up a middle ground :p

Indeed, it's just a shame many sceptics are so dismissive and arrogant in their faith in their assumptions.
 
I worked at a store where weird stuff happened and I did see something strange. However, it could have been a trick of the light and all the other strange things could also be explained away at a stretch. I'm not really sure if I believe in ghosts or not, but I do think there are probably things going on that we just don't understand yet. I'm very open minded, as I am with UFO's, aliens and quite a few conspiracy theories :) Anyway...

We would arrive at the store some mornings and find things had been moved in weird ways. One time an entire row of shoes on the wall had been placed on the floor very neatly, heel to toe, laces neatly tied, in a long line. I had been the last one in that area the previous night and I know 100% it wasn't like that when we left. Another time pair of shoes from a wall display were found right in the middle of the shop floor - again, very neatly placed next to each other. Sometimes the music would be on when we arrived, or the coat alarms would all be going off. There were 3 key holders (inc me) and the other two were really not the type to pull jokes like that. I know that isn't much of a defense, but I knew them very well. Logically it had to be one of them, however unlikely it may seem to me. But...

One day two of the younger members of staff came down to me and the other supervisor and said they had seen somebody "appear" at the top of the stairs and then vanish. We laughed at them and thought they were just being silly kids keeping the ghost story going. The next day me and other supervisor were upstairs by the register chatting away (it was quiet and there were no customers) when we saw a customer coming up the stairs (you could see any movement between the stuff on the shelves) and I saw somebody appear at the top. We both turned to greet them but there was nobody there. We both looked at each other and the other guy looked white and said "did....you just see somebody come up the stairs and stand over there?". Every single hair on my body was standing up :p We immediately went down stairs and checked to see if anybody had come in the store and they hadn't. Really freaked me out. Unfortunately there were no cameras in the store.
 
Curio said:

Either I have de ja vu, amazing future-seeing abilities or you've posted that in another thread before :p



also I should probably have looked up Occam's razor before my last post cause I don't really know the precise definition ;)
 
Zogger said:
Either I have de ja vu, amazing future-seeing abilities or you've posted that in another thread before :p

Yah - there was a thread a while back in SC. I tried to find it so I could copy/paste it....but no joy ;)
 
If you are highly impressionable you are more likely to see ghosts, big cats on the moors, the Abominable Snowman, Nessy and Bigfoot.

look Elvis is over there in the corner.

UFOs and aliens on the other hand are real. I went to Area 51 to look for them too.

^
BTW I still find it amusing that people argue with eachother in the comments.
 
What was that video supposed to show me other than A51 is a heavily guarded military installment?
 
Hxc said:
Pinter75 said:
Ghosts, bah - its just time repeating itself.
People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear non-subjective view point, it's more like a big ball of wibley-wobbley ... timey-wimey ... stuff.


:D :D :D

but time is just a human concept and doesn't physically exist...
 
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Yep I even got a photo :eek:
 
Zogger said:
If that happened I would be very confused, but that's not to say there isn't a normal explanation... Does remind me of the time one weekend a few years ago in uni halls when everyone on my corridors' forks went missing, even though my room was locked the whole time I wasn't in and the cleaners didn't come on weekends :confused:

I don't generally believe in ghosts but I am not closed to the idea...

The old things moving around the house on their own happens quite a lot in this house. We've just gotten use to it now, it's more of an annoyance than freaky. The last time it happened my better half put a glass of water down on the kitchen top and went to the toilet. When she came back the glass was empty, still wet inside but empty. :eek:
 
willatwell182 said:
but time is just a human concept and doesn't physically exist...

(unless I can't remember your quote from the show)

That was a Doctor Who quote :P
 
dunno don't watch it....it was an AS physics lesson that we distracted the lecturer in and started talking about different theoretical concepts such as time travel and other BS
 
willatwell182 said:
dunno don't watch it....it was an AS physics lesson that we distracted the lecturer in and started talking about different theoretical concepts such as time travel and other BS

So, you're taking AS Physics yet still discount time-travel as BS? A good scientist never discounts anything until it can be proved as unquestionable scientific fact that it can't exist. Then, they start to find ways of making it exist!
 
div0 said:
1. You clearly saw the G-man :rolleyes:
2. You fainted and fell down the stairs?

Master_X said:
I saw a floating head once........







It was just a man behind a bush!!!

These posts were brought to you by the letters LOL :D

I've never seen anything, although I've felt a 'presence' several times, although thoroughly believe it's all in your mind :) *quickly looks around room* sitting in a pitch black room with headphones on isn't the best time to be reading this sort of stuff :D
 
Havnt saw anything strange in my short life. Been on a good few ghostwalks and tours of haunted places and felt nothing but a bit of awkward nervousness.

Go out and sit in the middle of a pitch black football field and you will see and hear some pretty weird stuff.

My mum and gran are into seeing a lot of stuff hence whey i have been on ghostwalks.

I have always said i want to see something,anything, that can show ME that there is stuff out there.
 
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