Selling high value item on ebay

I actually think getting screwed over is the exception and quite unlikely. Obviously though with a site that processes so many transactions, if it happens to you it stings.

I’ve sold £10k in stuff over the past few months and about £4.5k of that was in two items. My rule is that I only ship to the UK and big items are cash on collection. The £4.5k items were collected and paid with in cash or bank transfer. Added bonus was both of the guys that collected suggested we just cancel the transaction so that I could avoid the ridiculous seller fees. That was about £500 saved. All in all has been a positive experience.

I think certain items are much more likely to attract scammers, like phones and other tech.
Couldn't you have waited for a £1 max FVF offer? There's no way I'd be paying £500 selling fees for 2 items.
 
Couldn't you have waited for a £1 max FVF offer? There's no way I'd be paying £500 selling fees for 2 items.

Exactly, £500 fees is ludicrous. I suppose I could have waited (although I don't pay close attention to those offers so I wasn't aware those offers existed), but I wanted to list them when I had the time to sell them and meet buyers etc. It was actually both of the buyers that suggesting cancelling them anyway.
 
I couldn't care less.

I know. It doesn't change the validity of what I said though.

Exactly, £500 fees is ludicrous. I suppose I could have waited (although I don't pay close attention to those offers so I wasn't aware those offers existed), but I wanted to list them when I had the time to sell them and meet buyers etc. It was actually both of the buyers that suggesting cancelling them anyway.

£500 is what you agreed to pay for using the service at the time you chose to use it.
 
I know. It doesn't change the validity of what I said though.



£500 is what you agreed to pay for using the service at the time you chose to use it.

Nobody questioned the validity of what you're saying, don't worry, you're incredibly correct, you're the best.
 
I know. It doesn't change the validity of what I said though.



£500 is what you agreed to pay for using the service at the time you chose to use it.
I'm sure eBay will survive. Nobody cares if a greedy company ripping people off by taking advantage of their monopoly don't get what they technically should have. I'm not so certain that he does owe them anything anyway, the auction was cancelled and they had a private sale instead. It's certainly against their terms and conditions and they could ban him from selling in the future, but I don't think he legally owes them anything.
 
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I'm sure eBay will survive. Nobody cares if a greedy company ripping people off by taking advantage of their monopoly don't get what they technically should have. I'm not so certain that he does owe them anything anyway, the auction was cancelled and they had a private sale instead. It's certainly against their terms and conditions and they could ban him from selling in the future, but I don't think he legally owes them anything.

Legally he owes ebay the fees as they were the effective cause of the sale.
 
Wrong, breaking eBay's terms of service does not mean he legally owes them anything, it's not against the law to break TOS. Contractually, the auction was cancelled and they had a private sale, he was not invoiced for the fees.

Indeed, and technically it was the purchaser that requested the cancellation of the sale. Legally there's nothing they could, or indeed would do.
 
Yeah there are plenty around the world, rudy from alpha investments is a very well known card trader/hoarder. It's a weird and wonderful world with fortunes to be made (and sadly lost in this case potentially)
I sold out of magic the gathering back at the end of uni (2005), lord I wish I never checked the prices of cards.

I'd have had a mortgage for a decent house!
 
I sold out of magic the gathering back at the end of uni (2005), lord I wish I never checked the prices of cards.

I'd have had a mortgage for a decent house!

Same mate, had loads of alpha, including two unused sets of mox gems amongst plenty of others, I had a black lotus too but it was a well played card so not worth mental money, I won it at a games workshop tournament :p

I made some decent money on it all, but if I still had it now I'd be able to by a helipad for the west wing ;) :D
 
Same mate, had loads of alpha, including two unused sets of mox gems amongst plenty of others, I had a black lotus too but it was a well played card so not worth mental money, I won it at a games workshop tournament :p

I made some decent money on it all, but if I still had it now I'd be able to by a helipad for the west wing ;) :D

tell me about it, I had over 40 dual lands (fbb ) that I sold for 10 each >.< I thought I did well back then, when extended crashed and burned.

I still have emails from 07 showing my gaeas cradles not selling for a tenner haha
 
I just can't see how it is possible to sell something like this on ebay. It is so easy to just claim it's a fake. You need a proper dealer.

Even worse if it is international you now how have to deal with the american legal system for any recourse whilst living in the UK.

In fact the higher the price you get the more likely it is that you will get scammed as the incentive is greater.

He said "
I cant be anymore transparent. I repeat, I did not completely understand the ad/description"

So he is at fault when trying to claim not as described now surely.

To confirm, it was described perfectly.

Problem is ebay are still likely to initiate a return process. So you have to hope he will return the original.

The debt collectors that Paypal sell your debt too have no legal authority to do anything other than threaten to pay you a visit, which they wont. I have been through all this after being scammed on ebay, I dug my heels in and was prepared to go to court, nothing happened and the debt collectors were a mild inconvenience.

The debt collectors have no authority. But if paypal take you to court and win getting a CCJ then suddenly it can be passed on to bailiffs.

Do you have experience of owing ebay/paypal £2500?
 
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Wrong, breaking eBay's terms of service does not mean he legally owes them anything, it's not against the law to break TOS. Contractually, the auction was cancelled and they had a private sale, he was not invoiced for the fees.

You engage me to sell an item for you and agree to pay me 10% of the sale price for an introduction leading to a sale. I find a buyer and you agree a price but cancel our agreement. I was the effective cause of the sale so do you think I couldn't successfully sue you for my 10%?
 
The debt collectors have no authority. But if paypal take you to court and win getting a CCJ then suddenly it can be passed on to bailiffs.

Do you have experience of owing ebay/paypal £2500?

Lots of if's there. They won't win, and they know it (which is why these court cases don't happen). They'd have to prove their decision to refund the buyer was sound and because they don't give a toss and always side in favour of the buyer they would lack this concrete evidence that a court requires over their sham of a dispute process.
 
You engage me to sell an item for you and agree to pay me 10% of the sale price for an introduction leading to a sale. I find a buyer and you agree a price but cancel our agreement. I was the effective cause of the sale so do you think I couldn't successfully sue you for my 10%?
Nope, the buyer you found decided to cancel the sale so there was no longer an agreement. Maybe you could sue the buyer for cancelling the sale and then purchasing straight afterwards, causing you lost revenue, but I don't owe you anything.
 
Nope, the buyer you found decided to cancel the sale so there was no longer an agreement. Maybe you could sue the buyer for cancelling the sale and then purchasing straight afterwards, causing you lost revenue, but I don't owe you anything.

To be on a par with the situation we're discussing you have to assume that you still went ahead with the sale to the buyer I introduced and it's the agreement to pay me 10% that you cancelled. The buyer may have suggested you cancel our agreement but you're the one responsible for doing so.
 
:rolleyes:

what's this about filming yourself opening/packaging things? could easily change something/redo it after you've filmed packaging, or could have already opened it before filming opening a package...might be wrong but can't see it being any help
 
To be on a par with the situation we're discussing you have to assume that you still went ahead with the sale to the buyer I introduced and it's the agreement to pay me 10% that you cancelled. The buyer may have suggested you cancel our agreement but you're the one responsible for doing so.
No, we don't assume anything. To successfully sue you would need proof that the seller was in on it to avoid fees and that the buyer simply didn't change their mind after the auction was cancelled. You would also need a signed contract from the seller agreeing to pay the fees, I doubt agreeing to a website's TOS when creating an account would hold up. Show me one example where eBay have successfully sued a seller for dodging fees. Legally he owes nothing, you're grasping at straws.
 
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