Selling my car. No patience

tamzzy said:
honestly only a mug would buy your car tbh.
the first thing any sane person would do is look at autotrader's own valuation and it's not good looking for your car

if i were looking for a Q2 it would be a hard pass with the seller asking 25% over valuation. screams to me that the seller would be an entitled ahole and difficult to deal with
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Autotraders valuation is hilariously out of whack at times. I don't know specifics about Q2's but I've had the following experiences with it:

BMW E46 330i - Autotrader quoted ~£1500, I sold for £3k.
Audi S3 - Autotrader quoted £17k, I sold for £20k.
BMW M4 Competiton - Autotrader quoted £37k, I sold for £45k.
Audi TT-RS - Autotrader quoted £33k, I sold for £39k.

Something leads me to say their valuation is heavily buyer oriented rather than seller.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
That says £140? I sold it in line with the prices on eBay
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You are totally hilarious, anyway off topic just highlighting your wishful thinking selling used items. You *might* sell it for £20k if you wait long enough, but if you wait long enough it'll be worth £10k as well. Perhaps you could start offering PCP or HP and compete with dealers, and also give a nice warranty as well. ;)
 
Delta3D said:
Autotraders valuation is hilariously out of whack at times. I don't know specifics about Q2's but I've had the following experiences with it:

BMW E46 330i - Autotrader quoted ~£1500, I sold for £3k.
Audi S3 - Autotrader quoted £17k, I sold for £20k.
BMW M4 Competiton - Autotrader quoted £37k, I sold for £45k.
Audi TT-RS - Autotrader quoted £33k, I sold for £39k.

Something leads me to say their valuation is heavily buyer oriented rather than seller.
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Exactly what I thought. Thank you. It’s displaying trade in value.
 
Main dealers idea of prices are not the gospel either - per lot's of narratives on OC, car not the quality/standard they advertise when it's seen
- even if they have a holey warranty, with, it's servicing requirements.
a first hand description from a private buyer of how they have used the car isn't without merit

e: you don't get to speak to the corporate lessee whose worked car you purchased at the main dealer
 
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[TW]Fox said:
I still don't understand why you think it's worth more than the same car at an Audi main dealer though? If Audi are selling for £18600, how can a private sale example be anywhere near?
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This

I spent enough years as a salesman for Audi/Merc etc and just got sick of customers wanting to trade in their cars for the exact value of one thats on the forecourt.
The costs to prep a P/X for sale can be astronomical when the workshop has finished fleecing the sales department for new tyres, pads & discs, servicing etc.
Then theres the bodywork prep + the admin + the extended warrany + salesmen's commission etc etc and all the other many costs.
So many private sellers are away with the fairies when it comes to valuations to say the very least.
Most of them wake up and smell the coffee eventually though.
 
Delta3D said:
BMW E46 330i - Autotrader quoted ~£1500, I sold for £3k.
Audi S3 - Autotrader quoted £17k, I sold for £20k.
BMW M4 Competiton - Autotrader quoted £37k, I sold for £45k.
Audi TT-RS - Autotrader quoted £33k, I sold for £39k.
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i would argue that those cars are rarer than a run of the mill Q2 35i
 
It seems you have money you want/need to make but a car that isn't worth what you think. You can convince yourself it is, but the market is the market and if it's not selling no one wants it. Prices are only going one way and at pace.
 
JonRGV250 said:
This

I spent enough years as a salesman for Audi/Merc etc and just got sick of customers wanting to trade in their cars for the exact value of one thats on the forecourt.
The costs to prep a P/X for sale can be astronomical when the workshop has finished fleecing the sales department for new tyres, pads & discs, servicing etc.
Then theres the bodywork prep + the admin + the extended warrany + salesmen's commission etc etc and all the other many costs.
So many private sellers are away with the fairies when it comes to valuations to say the very least.
Most of them wake up and smell the coffee eventually though.
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Presumably all of those things, which are unnecessary here, add cost. It has new tyres, new discs, new pads, servicing is completely up to date, bodywork is great. I have no warranty costs or markups to apply. The only thing I can’t offer is a warranty, but in reality it’s so new that nothing goes wrong with it.

Ok I probably won’t get what I want for it but I’m not going to start at the bottom
 
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dirtychinchilla said:
Ok I probably won’t get what I want for it but I’m not going to start at the bottom
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But you will end up there if you want to sell it.

Pick any car you like and see on AT that dealer prices are always a good 10-20% higher than private sales. This is to tempt the buyers into saving £2k or more and they take on the risk inherent with buying privately. This is, of course, why people buy from dealers for more money, because it comes with certain safeguards and in the case of an approved used Audi, for £1,500 less than you want, warranty and after sales support as well as consumer rights you get buying from a business. No one is going to pay Dealer price for a private sale when they can buy from a dealer.
 
dirtychinchilla said:
Presumably all of those things, which are unnecessary here, add cost. It has new tyres, new discs, new pads, servicing is completely up to date, bodywork is great. I have no warranty costs or markups to apply. The only thing I can’t offer is a warranty, but in reality it’s so new that nothing goes wrong with it.

Ok I probably won’t get what I want for it but I’m not going to start at the bottom
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Ok, but cars depreciate 1-2% every month. On a ~£20k car, losing £200-£400 for a month delay.

The reality is likely to be higher.


On a like-for-like basis, i.e. ignoring depreciation, used cars are down 5.6% in december 23.
 
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