Selling your kidney...

Zip · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:49

Since we are talking about kidneys im gonna ask this.

How big are kidney stones and has anyone ever had them?

iCraig · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:51

j00ni said:
Yeah but how could I guarantee that my other kidney won't fail.

If you look after it, then unlikely. Your kidneys are pretty robust. You've got more chance of dying of something else than your kidney packing up completely so quickly.

j00ni said:
No it wouldn't. I know it's a tad selfish, but kidney transplants don't save lives, they just improve quality of life - so nobody lives or dies by my decision

If somebody is dying of kidney failure, due to a sever infection or rupture or whatever, and it's their only kidney (many are born with only one) then a kidney transplant would save their life.

Also, even if it was give somebody an extra few years or improve their life, you wouldn't do that for them? When the losses are so minimal to you and the gains so great for them?

iCraig · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:52

andr3w said:
i thought both of them had something to do with what you drink?

In essence your kidneys filter and clean your blood. They remove toxins. It's a round-the-clock job but even one kidney is up to the task.

iCraig · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:53

Zip said:
How big are kidney stones and has anyone ever had them?

The average kidney stones are 4-6mm in size. Smaller ones are often passed without the person realising.

I know two people who've had them, both were caused by dehydration.

...and yes the large stones are extremely painful to pass. Even when broken up by the treatment.

j00ni · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:54

iCraig said:
If somebody is dying of kidney failure, due to a sever infection or rupture or whatever, and it's their only kidney (many are born with only one) then a kidney transplant would save their life.

The likelihood of that situation is far less than the liklihood of me going into kidney failure myself though.

iCraig said:
Also, even if it was give somebody an extra few years or improve their life, you wouldn't do that for them? When the losses are so minimal to you and the gains so great for them?

It wouldn't massively improve it though, and wouldn't prolong their life

Zip · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:54

iCraig said:
The average kidney stones are 4-6mm in size. Smaller ones are often passed without the person realising.

I know two people who've had them, both were caused by dehydration.

Is that in Diamiter :eek:

ArmyofHarmony · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:55

How dehydrated were they?

i havent been drinking much water lately, now im worried

also this thread reminds me of that episode of Firefly when he was smuggling body parts inside himself lol

Andr3w · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:55

ArmyofHarmony said:
How dehydrated were they?

i havent been drinking much water lately, now im worried

also this thread reminds me of that episode of Firefly when he was smuggling body parts inside himself lol

If your wee is the yellow colour then you are not drinking enough water and you could end up getting the stones!

If your wee is clear then you are drinking enough

penski · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:56

I don't understand the question...were you able to...?

*n

j00ni · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:57

Zip said:
Is that in Diamiter

Yeap, and some of them have razor-sharp edges, similar to gravel

iCraig · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:58

j00ni said:
The likelihood of that situation is far less than the liklihood of me going into kidney failure myself though.

It would be happening more often than you think. However I'm not sure, but I think organ donors donate plenty of kidneys these days.

j00ni said:
It wouldn't massively improve it though, and wouldn't prolong their life

Yes it would, and yes it does. My girlfriend's Uncle had one kidney removed due to a severe infection, it shrivelled up completely and was polluting his blood. When his other kidney done the same, his grandson donated his right kidney and he is still alive today. He would have died without the transplant.

Zip · 13 Jan 2007 at 13:59

j00ni said:
Yeap, and some of them have razor-sharp edges, similar to gravel

I feel sorry for anyone that has to pass that through there willy

Would they cause blood? :confused:

Andr3w · 13 Jan 2007 at 14:00

Zip said:
I feel sorry for anyone that has to pass that through there willy

Would they cause blood?

if it cuts the inside of your willy, yeh

j00ni · 13 Jan 2007 at 14:01

iCraig said:
It would be happening more often than you think.

It happens exactly as often as I think actually

iCraig said:
He would have died without the transplant.

He probably (and I'm going off averages because I don't know him obviously) could have been on dialysis for a long while, rather than dying though

Zip · 13 Jan 2007 at 14:02

j00ni said:
He probably (and I'm going off averages because I don't know him obviously) could have been on dialysis for a long while, rather than dying though

Would you like to be put on Dialysis every day or what ever it is?

iCraig · 13 Jan 2007 at 14:04

j00ni said:
He probably (and I'm going off averages because I don't know him obviously) could have been on dialysis for a long while, rather than dying though

Well a transplant was the better choice, obviously. As the Uncle and Grandson are both ok, and the Uncle isn't constantly hooked up to a machine to keep him alive.

j00ni · 13 Jan 2007 at 14:09

Zip said:
Would you like to be put on Dialysis every day or what ever it is?

No, and it's not daily, but my point was that it doesn't save lives. If a family member needed it, they could have it, but I am not short-sighted enough to sell one for money

Zip · 13 Jan 2007 at 14:10

j00ni said:
No, and it's not daily, but my point was that it doesn't save lives. If a family member needed it, they could have it, but I am not short-sighted enough to sell one for money

What if the Mafia were after you and whre going to make you sleep with the fishies unless you payed up? :confused:

megakid · 13 Jan 2007 at 14:16

So tell me, if a piece of liver grows back in 12 months why cant this fact be used to repair damaged livers? Does liver damage occur spontaniously or over time? If overtime then in theory couldnt you just continually replace it (bit like resurfacing a road I guess! Once you've finished one end, its time to start resurfacing at the other!)?

semi-pro waster · 13 Jan 2007 at 14:16

Zip said:
What if the Mafia were after you and whre going to make you sleep with the fishies unless you payed up?

Well in that case j00ni has bigger problems than the risk of his remaining kidney failing I suppose but it is a shade unlikely. I don't know j00ni but he doesn't really strike me as the type to be in hock to mafiosi.

I think like most people I'd probably give up a kidney for a family member but I don't think I'd be all that keen on selling off bodyparts, not to mention the illegality of it.