Sennheiser gsx 1000 thread?

Agreed £120 was an excellent price, I said I wouldn't make the gamble at £199 bit tbh I have trust in sennheiser that I firmly believe this could be the real deal..

Am no audio expert but I do know what positional audio should sound like I have used almost all virtual surround sound and they all have that horrible hall way echo effect..

This from what I gather doesn't have the echo effect so it should be good.

I'll give my honest feedback but not till I have had the unit for a week of so should have it by Wednesday.
 
£120 would have been nice but that puts it next to g5 and mixanp. Both of which are poorly built in comparison. £149.99 would have been a great starting price for this unit given the premium nature. I can see it being close to that in a few months. However there's simply nothing this good on the market, I'd buy it again in a flash at £200. I got the g5 for £90 and felt ripped off. This is such a lovely bit of kit. Both in build and functionality.

Stop it! I cant wait till tomorrow :D not been this excited to try something in awhile..
 
Yeah they is two USB option I believe one for amp audio and one for chat.
So if you setup teamspeak to use the communication one it will automatically split the chat audio from game audio..

This is a very nice feature if you record gameplay :D
 
Build Quality and packaging is exceptional.. Feels really solid.. Now for testing :D

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Opps will do that maybe later haaa

Not all been plan sailing, not a fault with the unit more issue with my motherboard. Think I had too much all plugged into a USB hub because I could only get either audio or snowball microphone working at once.

So I put the gsx onto its own hub and that fixed it.

So far I have tested battlefield 1 and csgo they is defo an excellent surround sound going on, but my god they is so many options it's going to take a while getting used to it and finding what I feel is best :D

Happy too report though the echo effect can be disabled or enable too how you see fit while still keeping very decent positional audio.
Right now I feel story mode is the best, with most other settings on standard.

I'm terms of audio quality vs sound blaster z I not sure I notice a difference here apart from the gsx is much louder to my surprise.

One excellent feature is the separation of game audio and say teamspeak, can higher or lower each separate very nice.
 
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So why hasn't anyone with this uploaded a YouTube video showcasing the surround?
I see a handful of reviews, a lot of text describing it.
Its surround is the only reason to buy it, so lets hear it.

From what am reading its not yet released in USA so the bigger audio review channels don't have review copies.

over the weekend am going to see if recording software will pick up the effects. Unlike the Soundblaster Z I had to use something called What U hear for me too record it.
This doesn't have that so we will se.
 
I'm torn between this, an Essence STXII or Strix DLX, or a Shiit stack.

How is the sound quality in stereo with good quality headphones? I was looking at HD650s for the Schiit stack, but will probably run HD598s with this.

Been listening to my pink floyd collection this morning in 2.0 stereo. it sound excellent to me just like sound blaster z tbh
not sure I notice a difference in sound quality using Philips X1 the key features for the GSX is gaming surround sound and so far I will say its the best I have heard.

So meany options to choose from, the fact I can now have virtual surround sound without that horrible Hallway echo effect is a massive plus from me.
I need more time with this to get a better understand how good it really is.

not had enough chance to play loads games yet though to test further but so far I enjoying it. Is it an upgrade over Sound Blaster Z??
I would say no based on Audio quality alone but I would defo say yes if its used for its gaming purpose.

So I would say to you if its more about gaming than music pick this! If its more about Music go with a AMP/DAC like Schiit

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The GSX Mannal has decent information what it can do
http://en-uk.sennheiser.com/global-downloads/file/7564/GSX1000_UserGuide_06_2016_version1.pdf
 
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Are you using HD599s? Or HD598s? :p



What headphones are you running with it? And what games have you been playing? My primary use is gaming, and the ability to have a separate channel for TS does really sound good.

Using Philips Fidelio X1
Games so far has been Battlefield 1, COD4 and CSGO and Planet Coster.

The Separation of communication is a welcome surprise tbh
Not only does it allow you to higher and lower game audio different from say Teamspeak it also allows you to have a much better gaming recording if that's your thing "see Image"

OBS for example can record multi tracks so now if you record game while being in TS it will have Game Audio, Teamspeak, and Mic all on seprate channels no more friends speaking at the wrong time :D
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Of the actual device with your username ? ;)

Why not believe him? I even seen his review on rainforest to know he has the unit.

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Firstly although it says this is 150ohms I was hoping it could drive the 650s. It can't it results in the 650 having a bloated bass with mid and treble collapsing. But its not spec'ed to run those so I plugged in the HD599 which sound amazing with this amp

Upon opening the box I was shocked and surprised about the size of the amp. Its really diddy - in a good way. The jog wheel for volume is rock solid and the software free interface is very well done. Everything is touch sensitive and when not using it goes dim only to light up again when your hand gets near to the unit. The plastics used are high quality and the product definitely has a premium feel unlike Mixamp or Creative G5 which feel cheap in comparison.

So once plugged in you need to change the playback in windows to "speakers GSX audio" even if using headphones. You can tweak the sound but i run it with everything off bar 7.1.

Testing on BF1 I can safely say this is by far the best positioning audio I've ever heard. Not only that but its incredibly immersive. You can actually hear/feel the direction of the wind. Its almost too much to take in at first. I've been around the block when it comes to simulated surround below is a list of what I've used before

Creative XFI
Razer Surround Software
Mixamp
Creative G5
Sound blaster z
Sound blaster ZXR
Asus Xonar

And probably a couple of others I forgot due to age :D

It blows all those out of the water. When I got the G5 recently I was really unimpressed with the direction of the audio cues. Creative seemed to have tweaked what use to be decent and made it far worse. What's great about the GSX1000 is that its better then Creative ever were at their best.

Now I have a soft spot for the original Mixamp. At the time it was a decent product but DolbyHeadphone while having a roomy presentation always had a weird echo. This has none of that. Its clean, precise and extremely accurate. Its like a Mixamp for grown ups :D

Its a seriously well designed and thought out product.
 
On the X-Fi and SBZ, etc. I think the surround is part of the main sound processor and partially software assisted while I suspect this device uses a hardware "sideport" DSP type configuration which may make recording the effect difficult short of tapping into the analogue signal out the headphone socket.

Going to give it a try now.

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:( sadly seem you correct it doesn't record the effects changing has am doing it! Going to be hard to convince people if you cant show them? Surely they has to be way?
 
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May sound stupid but... can it work for music as simple DAC, without any effects? If yes, how does it really improves sound quality over onboard audio?

On ten, for gaming how would you rate the overall improvement of this over onboard audio + free surround software?

Yeah you can remove all effects and just use the DAC + AMP.. Its been ages since I used onboard audio and each MB has different performing audio so its hard for me to answer that.
 
If it does use a configuration like that you'd have to loop back with a cable from the headphone out to a line or mic input and record from that.

So if I plug a cable from the headphone out and into my sound card mic input that will record the audio from the unit?
 
Aslong as whatever your recording with can record from just the one input and not mix in all devices yeah - might have to play with volume levels, etc. as well as if its a mic input and a headphone output it will probably very easily drive the mic input into clipping.

Any risk of damage? I wouldnt want to put too much power into a mic port?

GTA5 With the GSX = Wow!! Setting story mode, 7.1 Balanced = Mind Blown! You can hear so much going on around you..

Just been standing middle of a road you can hear people walking along the patch way, Bikes and cars coming from down the road getting louder and louder has they become closer..

So far GTA5 has been the best showcase followed by BF1 although I not played much BF1 Online yet.
 
Played Battlefield 1 online last night and they is a great difference in surround sound vs what i have used before.. You really can hear everything around you its quite a moment.. Think most people thought I was AFK half the time haa Nope just taking in the sound ha

So far I after say am very happy with the product feel its defo an upgrade path for me.
 
I'm eagerly awaiting the day these are available for purchase from Sennheiser in Canada.
They told me they were receiving a small amount of them today, and randomly gave me a 20% off promo code for their store.

Now if only it were available so I could put the code to use.
I'll probably pick up some HD599's too, since they appear to be the best thing from Senn that this Amp is capable of driving.
The Canadian price with 20% off for the HD599 is pretty good, equates to $177 USD.

Still hoping for someone to upload a video showcasing the implementation of the surround sound though, Shankly said they'd try this weekend.

Sadly I cant get recording to pick up the effect because the unit is doing the work outside the PC.
Rroff pointed out I could maybe try Mic input, but I honestly dont want to chance pushing to much power into a mic port.
 
Not being able to drive the 650 is a massive downer for this IMO....

Tbf its a gaming unit its main purpuse will be "gaming headphone" Well headphones with low ohms..

Talking about Ohms I have seen headphones offer different spec for this 300 vs 150 vs 50 ect What does say a 300 ohms offer that a 50 rating cant?

Like my Philips X1 get rated excellent reviews all round and they not hard to drive. The Senn Game Zero headphones are also ment to be very good.
 
How does one know what amps to look for when it comes to surround preservation? Doesn't seem like the easiest thing to research or to just throw in Google and hope to find anyone that knows what they're talking about.



That's unfortunate to hear, or in this case not hear... :cool:
Is it really that risky, considering this amp isn't even that powerful?

Am not sure? I would need to connect the headphone out from GSX to Mic input on say my sound card and then I could record that mic input?

Mic inputs normally low power? I just not sure about this type of stuff. And then again even the options on the mic input are lacking sampling and Bitrate etc
 
They is couple honest reviews on Rainforest, but I do agree people who given the product Free could be just saying its good for the fact they given it free.

I 100% agree with this review.. Now I not trying to drive high demanding headphones so for me so far I would give this 5/5.
Am hearing the reason no Review channels post is like above lack of product overseas. You would think Senn would have sent out review copies to big Audio channels etc!!

Anyway enough at the guess work, am 100% happy with the product and that's all that matters :D Take what you want from what I have said about it and the people here and 3 reviews on rainforest.

An average AMP/DAC packed with the Best gaming DSP currently available.
By Ruben on 11 Nov. 2016 4 stars out of 5
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These are my impressions on a few days of testing the GSX 1000 that i bought immediately, when it announced it's release for 3rd November on amazon. As there is only 1 review currently, form an actual buyer not marked as "Vine Customer Review of Free Product", i feel that another honest and thorough review is needed.

This unit is marketed mostly for gamers, and it does a wonderful job at it's intended purpose. For virtual surround in first person shooters, i have yet to hear a DSP unit, which can match it's performance. The binaural technology implemented is no joke, and the sound is very much outside of your head when using it. I've been using a pair of Sennheiser HD598SE for testing, as i feel that is closest to what the average owner of this products is going to connect it with.

So the DSP is great for creating an atmospheric and very real sounding audio environment. It can take a while to get used to, if like me, you're used to a stereo representation close to your ears. It can be slightly overwhelming with the level of information being thrown at you through the 7.1 surround. Over time however, we get used to it and it will certainly show itself to be vastly superior to any motherboard audio solution.

But here's the problem with it as i see it: It's marketed as an "amplifier", whereas i would call it a gaming dac with a headphone out attachhed, if that makes any sense. It provides a great DSP for immersive gaming, but the amplifier does not power demanding headphones very well and will sometimes require me to turn it up to near 100%, when watching videos on YouTube for example. It handles games and other things well, but for some videos where the volume is low for some reason or other, i would like a bit more power to spare, just in case.

I connected my HD800S just to try it and of course i don't expect anything from it, but it is a great test for any amplifier to be connected to a very demanding pair of headphones. The results were very much expected. Very harsh and uncontrolled presentation in music. The amplifier simply lacks the power and control, required for music. However, in less demanding tasks like Battlefield or Counter Strike, it was quite a nice experience and the GSX 1000 really showed it's strengths when very demanding material didn't expose it's weaknesses.

Again, this is only to test the limits of the unit and it is not a fair test for the intended purpose of the unit. However, at this price i would have liked it to at least show a bit more maturity and be more than a one-trick-pony for gaming.

As someone who is spoiled by high end audio equipment, it really pains me that the GSX 1000, does not have a optical output, so that people who only want to add the binaural DSP signal, to their existing audio setup, would be able to do so... And again, as the GSX 1000 is not a unit which excels at anything but it's DSP, it's would be great to be able to hook it up to much better amplifiers and dacs.

I must conclude that this product is for the hardcore gamers, with deep pockets and preference for pin point audio imaging and immersion above everything else. It's DSP beats out everything i've tried including, but not limited to: Creative Sound Blaster ZxR, Creative Sound BlasterX G5 and Asus Xonar Essence ST, which are some heavy-hitters in the computer audio market.

While it's sound quality is only as good as the G5, It's DSP simply beats out anything i've ever heard for gaming. It's pin point accurate and the sound stage is wall to wall. It's presented in a very natural manner compared to say the Essence ST, where the "room feeling" is too unnatural for my tastes. Luckily for anyone who purchases the GSX 1000, you can adjust the "room setting" among other things on the unit, enabling you to get your preferred surround experience. You won't have to settle for one specific surround presentation, as this one can do it all.

I always leave mine at 7.1 in gaming with headphones with all other effects turned off. The gamer, music and movie setting all sound unnatural. Gamer is very cold and sterile with no bass and only treble. Yeah, you can hear footsteps alright, but everything sounds completely sterile.
Music enhances both bass and treble because that's what the kids want and movie enhances only the bass when compared directly.
If i was to ever use one of them, it would be the movie setting, as it only gives a slight boost to the bass without making the treble harsh like the music setting. Depending on your taste, this can provide for a more immersive experience.

The front-and-back surround sound setting is useless. Why would you ever want your surround presentation is be biased towards sounding like everything is in front or behind you?

The reverb setting does nothing to my ears through 7.1 headphone gaming.

Overall, most of the DSP settings seem gimmicky to me. I much prefer to set it to headphone and 7.1 without adding anything extra. If you have a good pair of headphones, this should sound the most natural.

This little gaming beast, is great for it's intended purpose and the average gamer with entry to mid tier headphones will be blown away by it's performance, especially in first person shooters - You will never have heard your game sound quite like this before.

Where it disappoints, is as a serious audio reproduction tool able to do more than just gaming and casual movie watching with it's impressive 7.1 surround. I give the binaural DSP a solid 10/10 for gaming, especially in the FPS genre. As an amp/dac unit for great audio reproduction, i give it a 5/10. Don't think now that this product bad, it's only when compared to great audio equipment that i shows it's weakness. Any average/competitve gamer will be more than happy with this product and it's strengths heavily outweigh it's weakness, as you won't be buying the GSX 1000 for anything other than gaming, and for that purpose, i give the product as a whole a solid 8/10, considering it's great performance vs the asking price.

I only bring this up all of this snobby criticism because Sennheiser is the company that created this product and because of it's price of 199 gbp.

In conclusion, this product is a gamers dream and makes FPS players simply unload in their pants. But is it worth it to you?

4 stars. It excels at it's intended purpose. It's DSP is unmatched by anything i've ever heard. But because of the price, amplifier quality and lack of an optical output, it leaves a little to be desired by audio enthusiasts.
 
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Ok just looked up and my sound blaster Z has Line in/Mic so I just tested and it recored the effect :D

So I will defo upload some video today.
Downside I wasn't able to hear the audio myself so i will just after roll with it!

Should I record a section say off Battlefield 1 each time on its own preset or do you want me to change them on the fly?
 
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Just uploading a quick test video, dont ask why my aim is stuttering no idea lol was using a controller.

Bioshock is a pain because I going to need to play through the start again to get to that point but i'll do that now.

This clip is the default settings am using now! 7.1 Set to story mode with all other settings switched off.
Also for some reason if I listen in to the Sound Blaster Z Line In I get lot of noise?? This normal?
Here a video of it

 
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