Seriously...
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***Stop with the personal attacks!***
why are they on the street then? getting food stamps is hard? cant be bothered to seek help?
Just maybe it's because no one is offering free accommodation to the hundreds of thousands of homeless people and no one will employ them? I can't believe that you're really asking this question.
sorting them out is a separate issue, I hope you agree that just because they are homeless doesn't give them a right to just set up camp where ever they want. 40people is a lot. Apply for the permit or go else where. Could even ask for a car park or something as a donation. A park isn't for 40 people to live. It similar in the uk, some parks are locked at night and have a patrolmen.
What? That would a tragic waste of life!
The homeless should be rounded up and harvested for their organs to donate to needy not homeless people.
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Chaaange? Spare any chaange?
Gives one pound coin, "spend it on some 'food'".
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Fugees said:
Tbh if the homeless were inhabiting my local park, I'd support almost any action to get rid of them. I sympathise with most of them, I just don't like them.
They violated a court order. No matter how noble your intentions, the law is the law. I'm sure there were reasons for the order. If you feed homeless people in the park then you're going to end up dealing with disruption, rubbish and other mess, which is going to cost the council.
If this group want to feed the homeless, then great, but why don't they get their own building and run a shelter so the mess can be confined to their own site, rather than it being inflicted on the wider public.
If this group want to feed the homeless, then great, but why don't they get their own building and run a shelter so the mess can be confined to their own site, rather than it being inflicted on the wider public.
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Yeah but then NOBODY can get in, it's not just the homeless people being selectively moved along just because they're eyesores. Besides, the article wasn't talking about the homeless people staying there overnight, was it? They just didn't want so many of them to congregate there for mealtimes, that's why they passed the ordinance. It's completely hypocritical and self-serving, it ruins the charity organisation's ability to provide for them cause I'm sure they can't afford to rent a space, and it discriminates against the homeless folks by not letting them use a public space.
I agree that they're an eyesore and letting them congregate there ruins the park, but I think people should just shut up and swallow it, because a homelessness problem should rank far higher on a city's priorities than parks and recreation! Sweeping the problem under the carpet so office workers around the park can enjoy their lunch hour sandwich without having to see homeless people and feel the pangs of middle class guilt is just petty! And to criminalise people trying to DO something about the problem just so the park can look nice is moronic!
And "it's the law" is NOT an argument: dodgy laws get created all the time, and it's up to citizens to stand up to them, defy them if necessary, if convicted to appeal against to a higher court. Politicians are the dodgiest, slimiest people around and they'll pass any number of self-serving laws if there's no checks on their power. That's why we have things like Supreme Courts and judicial reviews.
Maybe because that's money they can't afford? Maybe the money the government spent on prosecuting them could have been spent on shelters? The legal system here is part of the problem, punishing those who help those in need, it's like arresting everyone who donates to oxfam.
Plenty of homeless charities run shelters and soup kitchens.
manveruppd said:
Giving homeless people food isn't doing something about the problem, it's providing a band-aid for a broken leg. And it's not just sweeping up litter, the mess will be far worse than just that. I'll spell it out for you if you really want.
manveruppd said:
And I'm sure this group will appeal, just as you are suggesting.
A bit like we'd be better off sending condoms over to Africa instead of loads of food?
Actually can we give condoms to chavs instead of benefit too?
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It's nothing like arresting everyone who donates to Oxfam. And it's also arguably not the government's prerogative to look after homeless people.
It is the governments duty to help people in poverty. In any case arresting these good people will only serve to harm more homeless people which is not in the interests of society. These 3 people should be commended for their generosity and willingness to risk their own freedom by breaking the law to do what is right and ethical, they should be given an award not punishment. Shocking sign of the times really.