Sherlock - Series 2 - BBC

fez said:
Come on, have a little think about it at least. Sherlocks story is that this petrified man in the reporters apartment is a master criminal who is playing everyone for a chump. Moriarty's story is that he is an actor with plenty of evidence to back it up, he is scared witless by Sherlock and has just been acquitted of a crime that seemed to hinge on Sherlock's expert testimony which ultimately released him. The reporter has already been insulted and belittled by Sherlock a few times and wants to get him back.

Yeah, thats a real stretch to think that she would believe Moriarty.



Christ you are a nightmare. You seem to ignore the quite simple fact that all the characters in films and t.v are not supposed to be privy to all of the plot and information.

The assassins are told that Sherlock has the code for the computer program. Moriarty is a criminal for hire, who by all accounts is rather good at it so I would be a little surprised if the assassins had any concerns that what he was saying was true. They see Sherlock about to be killed 2 foot away from them and they will try and stop it from happening. They have no idea what the other assassins are doing and the fact that they are all after him means that they know there must be a certain risk of being killed themselves.

They are unlikely to get the information that they want if Sherlock is dead or if they don't do anything but sit in their room for fear of being killed.

Try not to mistake your lack of creativity and ability to use logic as the writers lack of effort or stupidity.
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The first part is just, crap, he's SOOO scared of Sherlock he went along with it....... then told on him anyway.... why wouldn't he be scared anymore of Sherlock really is the criminal genius. He's too scared of Sherlock to not go along with it, then after threatening an entire jury, and getting away with the "crime of the century"....... he then went to the press..... Yes, if I'm so scared of someone I commit the crime of the century, and this uber criminal actually gets away with his plan....... I get less scared of him and go to the press.

No wanting to get back at someone doesn't make a ridiculously unbelievable story believable, it might make her want to print a story she doesn't believe, but believing a story that is flat out ridiculous, nope.

As for the assassins, you managed to say it, and ignore it at the same time, Moriarty is a criminal, an evil sadistic one that is known to have put bullets in MANY of his partners, who cares for no one and nothing but himself, so no, I wouldn't just believe him, would you?

Likewise Sherlock said the assassins knew they would kill each other, Moriarty told them the last one standing gets it(without rewatching I think that is what Sherlock said, that might just have been the plan and they didn't know officially)...... they DID know they would be killed if they made contact(and the other three weren't dead) making it utterly pointless to save his life.


Also, no one interviewed the kid, Lestrade couldn't go in after Sherlock left and ask her why she screamed, if she saw him kidnap her. She could potentially have been dosed with the drug and shown pictures and made to believe they were real, that's possible, but it wasn't even eluded at. Yet they wanted to string Sherlock up based on the crap cops feeling who has been wrong at every stage?

No, none of the story made sense, it was all stupid, and most of your points, well, are just flat out wrong. They should trust a criminal.... who has only ever proven himself untrustworthy at every turn, they all knew the other assassins were around and, the idea was they were all going to kill each other rather than let the others get to him first, it was clear(at the very least after the first one) that they were all watching him at all times.

Yet despite Sherlock later on saying he knew about them the whole time, he never managed to give them the slip, despite being able to slip into a terrorist camp, god knows where and save a bird without anyone even knowing he had left.

Its all completely daft start to finish.
 
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Loved it, very enjoyable. Andrew Scott was fantastic, I thought.

quickshot89 said:
http://www.johnwatsonblog.co.uk/

i didnt know this was real :eek:

edit: interesting few videos on the site too, worth a watch
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The comments on that are fantastic, very in-character.

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, Sherlock.

John Watson 23 March 18:14

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That's demonstrably untrue. That clip of a cat falling off a shelf for example. The one you insisted on watching twelve times.

Sherlock Holmes 23 March 18:16
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Judgeneo said:
Great episode, thoroughly enjoyed it :D

But there was no way a such a short piece of binary could crack every computer code in existence...
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a clever modulus factorisation algorithm sort of would - tho not exactly practical to tap out in 0s and 1s I suspect
 
Oh yeah, also:

All that time of Sherlock and Moriarty staring face-to-face, and no-one here noticed they had completely different eye colours? No way was that body Jim in a wig, it didn't have brown eyes
 
Weebull said:
Oh yeah, also:

All that time of Sherlock and Moriarty staring face-to-face, and no-one here noticed they had completely different eye colours? No way was that body Jim in a wig, it didn't have brown eyes
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It was obviously Sherlock that the camera showed on the floor but that was Watson-cam.
 
Richeh said:
When are we allowed to talk about it without spoiler tags, the episode has been out for 3 days now :p
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It's not that much hassle. It's wise to always spoilerise plot details of anything. You never know when someone might buy the DVD/bluray in the future.
 
Snograt said:
It's not that much hassle. It's wise to always spoilerise plot details of anything. You never know when someone might buy the DVD/bluray in the future.
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It's a huge hassle, it makes reading the forum a real pain, just look at the last few pages. In the end if you haven't seen the latest episode you'd have to be brain damaged to read this thread.
 
If the last couple of minutes was the "ole" through the eyes of Watson then I will be mightily ******. What a copout if that is the case, I really can't see that being (and hope that isn't) the case.

There are plenty of ways for him to pretend to die from a fall without resorting to that.
 
Richeh said:
When are we allowed to talk about it without spoiler tags, the episode has been out for 3 days now :p
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Never according to some posters... Because some people are just too stupid to stay out of a thread discussing something until they have seen it...:roll eyes:

Fine, want to discuss unaired episodes after watching then spoilers are good. Want to post about something after it has aired to everyone then post normally, otherwise film threads are going to be a pain for years after...
 
I think spoiler tags definitely do have a place especially when it comes to e.g. US series that air there before they do in the UK, you always get some people who have downloaded it or whatever piling in with their comments on eps you haven't seen yet when you want to be discussing the previous week's ep or whatever.

In terms of not spoiling for people who might get a DVD in the future, I'm not so sure. I'd say once something has gone out on terrestrial TV, it's fair game. If I was going to buy a dvd boxset of a series I wouldn't trawl through a big thread about a series.
 
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