Shipping my 1975 Rolls Royce from the UK to Mexico

Looking forward to pictures of the fleet when they're all assembled.

I'll try but I'm not sure they'll ever be together. This US one may well be sold before the others arrive, and in any case the others are going from the border straight to the bodyshop, then most likely straight to their new owners. I imported two Defenders as well so maybe I can get a photo of the two Rolls and Defenders at the border at least.
 
Windows and radio are fixed on the US one (did it myself and everything!), but the place I then took it to for the AC repair have now had it for about 5 weeks and done virtually nothing, which is annoying as I have a buyer waiting. Motor trade gonna motor trade I guess.

The two UK ones are already in Texas and on their way to me now - should have them early next week.

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I’m also having dangerous thoughts about buying a really, really bad one for 2-3k and completely building it from the ground up with an LS swap etc. I’ve found a place who said they’d be up for doing it, but it would involve a lot of time and money, even at Mexican labour rates. I do think it would be quite an amazing thing to own though, and I wouldn’t feel bad about not keeping it original as the sub 3k ones all end up getting broken for spares anyway.
 
So, Saturday was delivery day and I think it's fair to say that everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong. Wall of text incoming....

I had exams for my Masters in the morning, and had arranged lunch with a client in the afternoon. As I was leaving the exam, the driver called me to ask which number my house was at which point we realized he had totally the wrong address - it was a location around an hour away from where I live. His response was pretty much "sorry m8, not my problem" and his boss the called me asking me for another £500 for the extra distance. After a bit of back and forth, I managed to prove that it was their screw up and they agreed to deliver the cars to my address at no extra cost. It didn't end there however....

As I was about to hang up, the driver told me that he'd checked the address, and that his truck couldn't get anywhere near my house. They'd told me it would be a flatbed trailer, a bit like the one in the picture above, so I didn't understand what the problem was. Turned out, it wasn't a flatbed trailer, it was a full size HGV. When I asked him how he was planning on getting the cars out of the HGV, he said he had absolutely no idea, and that I should probably look into hiring a flatbed tow truck to drive them out and lower them down. I begrudgingly did that, and of course the company charged me 4x the normal rate as it was such short notice and they knew I didn't have any other option.

I then had to search for a place near my house to drop them off - I didn't want to do it anywhere near the city as none of the cars had tax, registration or insurance so I wanted to keep the driving to an absolute minimum. Luckily, my wife's family are in charge of a sports centre nearby, so we arranged to do it there. I thought that would be the end of the issues, but it was only the start.

When we got there, the situation was a bit like this

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The driver handed me a folder of paperwork, which contained only the titles and import papers of the cars - all the service history and original dealer invoices of the Rolls was missing and he had no idea where it was. The Land Rover was parked behind the two Rolls, so the idea was to drive that out first, then get the others out. However, the battery was totally flat, and as it had a 24v system, we couldn't jump it. So, we ended up winching it out and abandoning it at the side of the road while we worked on getting the 2 Rolls out.

I wasn't particularly optimistic about the Rolls starting, as if the Defender battery was totally dead, the Rolls ones probably would be as well. Sure enough, I was correct, neither of them would start. Now, you might think that's not a big deal as we could just winch them out, but they do need some amount of electrical current to get them in neutral, as the shift mechanism is electronically operated. So, I had to pull the battery out of my Jeep and put it in each Rolls so we could get them in neutral and pull them out. Then, I put the battery back in the Jeep and used it to jump the Shadow II.

As I turned the key of the Jeep to start the jumping process, it snapped off in my hand, so I had to use a pair of pliers to get it to turn on. After that minor setback, the jumping worked, we got the Shadow II started with its original battery, then moved the Jeep battery to the Shadow I, which totally refused to start. I knew the battery was good, but it wouldn't turn over whatsoever, so we started tracing the wires. It was dark at this point, so we decided to just leave it and pull it back to the house with the Jeep, which was more or less successful, if a bit scary.

That just left the Defender, which I was considering doing the same thing with. I called the buyer and explained that we had it ready, but that the batteries were dead. He seemed totally unbothered, sent a tow truck to collect it, and contacted me this morning telling me how incredibly happy he was with it.

Then, this morning, I decided to have a look at the Rolls that wouldn't start. The wiring to the starter solenoid looked terrible, so I wiggled it around a bit while my wife turned the key, and we managed to get it started. I'll get it all replaced at some point, but it's nice to know it doesn't have any major issues. I also went to get a new key for the Jeep, which was thankfully very cheap, and my customs agent called me to tell me he'd found the folders with all the paperwork and would send them with the other Defender that's coming this week.

So, I guess you could say that everything worked out in the end. I am currently looking on Facebook Marketplace for a nice car trailer however - this experience and the previous one I had with the US one has made me hate transport companies.

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Sounds like a lot of fun! To be expected with a) old cars and b) the scum that make up the automotive industry, wouldn't trust them to tell the time.

Are you (un)officially a dealer now? :p

Haha, sort of I guess. It's more of a hobby as my other business takes up a lot more of my time, but this is fun and gives me a good excuse to mess around with old cars, which is what I'd probably have been doing in my spare time anyway.
 
Some more Rolls related news. I've been using the one I got from the US fairly regularly and fixing things as they come up, in true old car fashion. Nothing terminal has gone wrong so far - I've changed a few brake lines, remove the cats as they were blocked and rattling, replaced most of the exhaust system and got an electrician to fix a nasty short that rendered most of the electrical system inoperable. It's a really lovely thing to drive around in, and although I suspect it will continue to need regular attention, that's fine by me.

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The white UK Shadow II has been at the bodyshop for what feels like about 20 years. It did have quite a lot of rust so I can't complain too much, and it's almost finished now. I think it will look great in a very 80's Miami way.

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We also restored the wood on it as it was absolutely destroyed, turned out quite well.

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The white UK Shadow I is in a different bodyshop and I just collected it today. I paid around double the normal rate for this job as they promised outstanding results, and predictably they failed to deliver. It looks very nice and is undoubtedly far better than it was before, but there's overspray on most of the seals, a couple of tiny flaws in the paint, a small mark on the bootlid, and they didn't paint the door shuts. It needs a few new trim clips as well. It does look lovely though, and the paint quality looks great, so I'm just going to chalk this one up to experience and not use them again.

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And naturally, this wouldn't be a post from me if I didn't announce the buying of some more cars. I've lost count of how many I've bought in the past few weeks, but there were several Defenders, a couple of Minis and a G Wagon. Most were for friends / contacts that I just took a small commission on, but these two below are for me - I'll probably keep the black one and sell the green one. The black is a 3.5 V8 which is nice...

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Nice nice nice - I have always liked that style of RR -The wafting era. :)

I’ve had a lot of wafty cars and they ride better than anything else I’ve had, handling is a different story though!

The second one is totally finished now, I particularly liked the contrast of the car / place in this photo.

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They ended up doing a better and far cheaper job than the other, much fancier paint shop as is often the way with these things.
 
Geekman. Loved the thread. Made for a great read.

Wondering if you could go in to more detail with regards to process of importing it at the border. Did you have to go through a customs broker?

I am looking to relocate a very rare lotus from the UK to Mexico permanently. I have shipping etc priced and arranged however I am at a bit of a loss in terms of making it fully legal in Mexico. The car was manufactured in 2018 and has a value of £80k. Do you think this will be doable? Appreciate your time.

Thanks! Yes, I did have to go through a customs broker. If you want to PM me I can give you my number so we can talk, but in short, there is no legitimate way to import your 2018 Lotus and make it fully legal in Mexico as for a permanent import the car has to be either manufactured in North America, or be 30 years old or more. As with everything in Mexico, the fact that there is no legitimate way doesn't mean it can't happen, but that's not a risk I'd personally feel happy taking with an £80k car.
 
Been a while since I updated this, so thought I'd post again as quite a few things have happened.

I sold the black Defender to a guy who did this with it, looks a hell of a lot better than it did and he's really happy with it.

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For some reason the green Defender hasn't sold yet, which is weird as it's probably the nicest one I've had. I use it regularly for land / ranch type stuff in the local area and it hasn't put a foot wrong, I've even done a few longer trips in 40+ degree heat and without any overheating, although the lack of AC is definitely an issue. I imagine it'll sell eventually but for the moment I'm happy to keep it.

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A friend was looking for a 4 door Defender so I bought this one for him, he's already paid me and it should be arriving in a few weeks.

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And my last white Rolls finally sold, it took quite a while but got there in the end, and the buyer was really happy with it. This was the last photo I ever took of it as I was delivering it.

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Since then, I've been looking for more cars to buy but everything was either overpriced, in really poor condition, or both. Then this morning I had a chat with the seller of this 1982 Silver Spirit and agreed a deal at 5k. Who knows how long it'll take to sell, but if it takes as long as the last one I'll happily drive it around in the meantime, especially as the AC system actually works!

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Finally, those of you who read my other thread may be wondering what's happening with the 4x4 Rolls Royce project. It's still very much happening, but I've been struggling with finding the right donor truck in the right configuration, and the people who were going to do it for me keep pushing back the date when they'll supposedly be able to start. It will eventually happen though, I'm sure.
 
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