You start with "People seemed to assume..." type snark, you're gonna get "people" responding.
It was a one n done novel, and the rest was left to the imagination (easily supplemented by historical fact)
"People" before you accepted the boundaries of the story: everyone who read the book, and everyone who watched the 80's tv show.
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Then 2 weeks later......................................
‘Shogun’ Nears Season 2 Renewal at FX as Star Hiroyuki Sanada Signs Deal to Return
'Shogun' may return for Season 2 as star and producer Hiroyuki Sanada has signed a deal with FX to return as Lord Yoshii Toranaga.variety.com
Called it!
Money talks in the end and, with the huge popularity of the first season, I would have been amazed if a second wasn't rushed into existence. Now, with no books source to follow, we'll see how well a story can be created from almost scratch by the team but, as I mentioned previously, I really do wonder if this is the best idea. I'd be happy for another "Shogun" style TV show picking a different story from the era, but I can't help but be worried that this "season 2" might not be upto the high standards created by the first.
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Hope they don't mess thia up
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I really don't care if a second series doesn't tie in with there being only one novel.
If it's anywhere near the level of series one then I'm all for it.
There's a dearth of TV of this quality as it is.
If it's anywhere near the level of series one then I'm all for it.
There's a dearth of TV of this quality as it is.
Man of Honour
Finally finished. The acting, characters, costumes and settings are excellent as is the storyline and portrayal of Japan in the 1600s. It is rare to be transported into such a very believable setting. It is one of the best historical dramas I have seen.
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FX has announced that they are working to develop two more seasons of their hit series #Shōgun, based on the novel by James Clavell.
That should upset some purists in here.
That should upset some purists in here.
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FX has announced that they are working to develop two more seasons of their hit series #Shōgun, based on the novel by James Clavell.
That should upset some purists in here.
Am actually OK with this as you if you really hate it, you can just pretend it ends at Season 1 ending which is canon to the book ending.
Not adapting a full story to completion is a lot worse to me than optional stuff I could skip, but if it's as good as Season 1 narratively then I'm happy.
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I'm chuffed they are doing more, people shouldn't compare it to the first season, it's not going to be as good. Season 1 is a classic, its very hard to match that, as long as we don't get a 4/10 season and its a solid 7, i'll be happy.
They've got the recipe there with the people that developed it, they'll all be working on it, it's just about coming up with a half decent story. They should carry on where they left i think, just because Toranaga is Shogun now doesn't mean it gets any easier. All the same things that happened in S1 would happen again, betrayal, subversion, warring clans, assassination attempts. They could flesh out the Portuguese/British war for power and influence in the region a bit as well, that's an interesting topic.
If people have never seen Silence, that might interest some people in here. You might also recognise a certain Japanese actor
They've got the recipe there with the people that developed it, they'll all be working on it, it's just about coming up with a half decent story. They should carry on where they left i think, just because Toranaga is Shogun now doesn't mean it gets any easier. All the same things that happened in S1 would happen again, betrayal, subversion, warring clans, assassination attempts. They could flesh out the Portuguese/British war for power and influence in the region a bit as well, that's an interesting topic.
If people have never seen Silence, that might interest some people in here. You might also recognise a certain Japanese actor
Finished it last week and I found it immensely satisfying. Pretty much everything was top notch - acting, production, story. I do worry about seasons 2 and 3 though. I saw one BTS/interview where they said this project took 11 years to come to fruition - Sanada got involved after 4 years and was a major producer as well as actor. I'm not sure what exactly those 11 years consisted of, but I can imagine it was hell of a lot of iteration, honing and re-writing. I'm not convinced that the same quality of iterating can be done on an unwritten script/story with the pressure of the studios looming over them.
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Aye, just finished and really enjoyed it. Can't really pick out any faults with it to be honest. The whole thing had such a beautiful flow to it, never a dull moment and the conclusion was wonderfully satisfying.
Not going to hold out too much hope for future seasons. It's possible to write around a lack of source material, but it rarely works. It'll take some doing to make the next few feel as involved as this one.
Not going to hold out too much hope for future seasons. It's possible to write around a lack of source material, but it rarely works. It'll take some doing to make the next few feel as involved as this one.
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I think I’m an episode or so away from the end of the first series - it’s been good overall, I’ll finish it, although I think the extent of the praise may be a result of it being aesthetically and thematically novel amongst current releases.
The best episodes have just been hitting the highs of an average GOT episode, IMO, but to each their own.
I also generally think that people are more willing to suspend their disbelief when there are subtitles they need to read, as it removes a layer of the actors needing to give a compelling performance. That’s not to say that the acting in Shogun was bad in any way, it’s just it’s easier to get invested in the story when there’s less need for the dialogue to be convincingly delivered. This applies to me as well: at the start of the thread, I was attacking the lead guy for finding him a bit off, but made no such criticisms against anyone else.
The best episodes have just been hitting the highs of an average GOT episode, IMO, but to each their own.
I also generally think that people are more willing to suspend their disbelief when there are subtitles they need to read, as it removes a layer of the actors needing to give a compelling performance. That’s not to say that the acting in Shogun was bad in any way, it’s just it’s easier to get invested in the story when there’s less need for the dialogue to be convincingly delivered. This applies to me as well: at the start of the thread, I was attacking the lead guy for finding him a bit off, but made no such criticisms against anyone else.
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I quite enjoyed Cosmo Jarvis' performance. It's perhaps a little hammy at times, or as my partner said: "it's like he's doing a downtrodden Tom Hardy", but they write his character so well that any small issues I had with his performance where quickly overshadowed.
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FX has announced that they are working to develop two more seasons of their hit series #Shōgun, based on the novel by James Clavell.
That should upset some purists in here.
It may well upset some people - but no one is going to make them watch it!
