Shoplifting...

i got caught stealing sweets when i was 6 or 7, the manager took meinto his office and told me off, then phoned my mum then she told me off. I guess it worked, havent stolen since.
 
Just because you say it is a fact, doesn't make it so.
It is true, don't waste time trying to imply it's not true without actually having any evidence to back it up and then not show any evidence yourself.

In 1993, when there were fewer than 45,000 prisoners, 53 per cent were being reconvicted within two years. In 2004, 65 per cent of those leaving prison were reconvicted.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-as-the-prison-population-expands-872411.html

Reoffending is a big problem and most criminals DO reoffend and this reoffending rate would only apply to those caught since they won't count those not caught so it would actually be above 65%. I'm not saying don't be her friend anymore but if it was me I'd have said don't do that stuff again and we'll forget about it. She'd be on thin ice though as I agree with the 'why keep criminals as company' point if they reoffend.
 
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she got into my car, said she didn't know why she did it and burst into tears. the police gave her a fine of £80 and said she was banned from going into the store again.

don't know why it took 2.5hrs.. [..]

Long enough to be worse for her, a means of ramming the message home. 10 minutes and a fine is a lot more easily forgotten than 150 minutes of waiting and wondering how bad it will be. I think the phone thing goes along with that - they wanted to isolate her to make it worse. Psychological techniques. I think it's a good idea overall - it puts some people off doing it again and it annoys the people who wouldn't be put off by anything. Win-win.
 
Wow, way to mock what is actually a proper crime, i hope you guys arent on the receiving end of a burglary, or mugging which is potentially the next step on from shoplifting. People dont just start at bank robberies, they almost always start on petty crimes and work up - that a proven fact.

Then you'll have no trouble providing that proof.

Even if you do (and I bet you don't), you're still wrong because you're assuming a two-way relationship that is obviously false. If it was not false, burglary and mugging would be as common as shoplifting.

The most you could realistically state is that people who have shoplifted are marginally more likely to commit more serious crimes than people who haven't shoplift.

Do you apply your thoughts to all crimes? For example, I once had sex in a wood(*), on public land. That's a sex crime, some sort of public indecency thing. Does that mean I must do serious sex crimes? Since I haven't in the 20-odd years since then, is there some sort of quota I must meet to validate your ill thought out ideas?



* It's less fun in practice than in fantasy. Woods aren't comfortable and they're full of flying little bugs that love sweat.
 
Ok so i'm in Reading at the moment, went shopping with a friend. Just after I finished paying for some clothes, we walked out of the shop and the security alarms went off..

The sales assistant called me back but realised it wasn't my bag, they called my friend back even tho she didn't buy anything from them. Turns out there was a pair of trousers in her other shopping bag that wasn't supposed to be in there :eek:

The assistant took her to the back and said I might as well go home as she still needs to be spoken to by the police. She had to switch her phone off so I can't contact her.

What happens when someone is caught shoplifting? Should I wait or should I go? I've waited an hour already in my car and I live 40mins away.. I don't want to leave in case she gets let off and I want to be there for her rather than having to let her mum know so she could pick her up. What to do, what to do :(

That would make me question my friendship.

What stops her stealing your car when you leave your keys around her ?
 
Do you want to apologise now? :rolleyes: Idiot.

Police fail yet again.

Police won't do anything. If she's unlucky she'll be taken down to police station - otherwise they'll have a quick word and let her go if she doesn't have a record. Pathetic policing system for the win!

She got an £80 penalty notice for disorder, it's either that or taken to a police station and given a caution (not a criminal record). I'd hardly call that 'nothing' and from the sounds of it it's shocked some sense into her.

So yeah, put down the Daily Mail, come up with some constructive criticism (without resorting to insults) or jog on before you make an even bigger tool of yourself. :)
 
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So after 2 and a bit hours i decided to call up thames valley police to track her down, the guy on the phone told me she wasn't taken to the police station and that she was still at the store with the police. so i decided to wait a bit longer and 10 mins later my friend called me to say they've let her go.

she got into my car, said she didn't know why she did it and burst into tears. the police gave her a fine of £80 and said she was banned from going into the store again.

don't know why it took 2.5hrs.. but i trust she won't be doing that again.. she was lucky the police only gave her a £80 fine.

yer, how dare the police inconvenience her...
 
Then you'll have no trouble providing that proof.

Even if you do (and I bet you don't), you're still wrong because you're assuming a two-way relationship that is obviously false. If it was not false, burglary and mugging would be as common as shoplifting.

The most you could realistically state is that people who have shoplifted are marginally more likely to commit more serious crimes than people who haven't shoplift.

Do you apply your thoughts to all crimes? For example, I once had sex in a wood(*), on public land. That's a sex crime, some sort of public indecency thing. Does that mean I must do serious sex crimes? Since I haven't in the 20-odd years since then, is there some sort of quota I must meet to validate your ill thought out ideas?



* It's less fun in practice than in fantasy. Woods aren't comfortable and they're full of flying little bugs that love sweat.

Oh dear, do grow up and learn to read. Firstly crime figures are everywhere, do i really need to google for you, or perhaps you should read a paper or the news, again its on there all the time.

Another poster has posted some figures just a few posts above yours :rolleyes:

Those who have commited crimes such as shoplifting are moer likely to reoffend, again its all in the crime figures.

As for your "sex offence", do a little more reading, its not actually an offence to have sex in a public place as long as you are in a place where you could reasonably expect not to expose yourself to those who may be offended, hence a wood is actually ok in most cases as long as its not a main path in a kids play trail!

So, go google, then come back when you know what you are talking about.
 
When I worked in Asda long time ago they caught a guy stealing a lot of meat. I was called to translate a bit as the guy didn't speak much English. Anyway they let him off and didn't call the police at that time as they said it wasn't worth the hassle as the police don't do anything but waste their 2h+ time.
 
One of my mates used to work at Morrisons in the bakery. He said he used to get the doughnut filler and eat the jam because it was so tasty.

Another mate would put reduced labels on things like packets of grapes for 10p that were sold for £2, then buy them

Job perks or something I suppose!
 
One of my mates used to work at Morrisons in the bakery. He said he used to get the doughnut filler and eat the jam because it was so tasty.

Another mate would put reduced labels on things like packets of grapes for 10p that were sold for £2, then buy them

Job perks or something I suppose!

No - blatent theft.
Is it really worth it?
Get caught, get a criminal record and then try and find a new job where they don't mind the fact you have a criminal record for theft.
 
I stole too when I was a kid few times from small shops. I regret doing it now but what happened just happened and I cannot undo it now. I was never really given any advice from my parents or even talked to about my issues etc.

But everyone changes once they grow up, get a job, pay for everything, you get your eyes opened and see how everything works around you.
 
I used to work for a high street competitor selling electrical goods (for about 2 weeks before opening my eyes!) and there would regularly be empty boxes suddenly appearing on the shelves or on the floor. People would rip open the box, and stuff the DVD player or whatever into a bag or even in a pushchair! Kids serve a purpose for shoplifting apparently!
 
Ok so i'm in Reading at the moment, went shopping with a friend. Just after I finished paying for some clothes, we walked out of the shop and the security alarms went off..

The sales assistant called me back but realised it wasn't my bag, they called my friend back even tho she didn't buy anything from them. Turns out there was a pair of trousers in her other shopping bag that wasn't supposed to be in there :eek:

The assistant took her to the back and said I might as well go home as she still needs to be spoken to by the police. She had to switch her phone off so I can't contact her.

What happens when someone is caught shoplifting? Should I wait or should I go? I've waited an hour already in my car and I live 40mins away.. I don't want to leave in case she gets let off and I want to be there for her rather than having to let her mum know so she could pick her up. What to do, what to do :(

From what I've heard from a mate of mine who used to run a store, and now runs a shopping center, the police/courts just aren't interested in shoplifting. You have to reoffend loads of times before it goes anywhere remotely serious...
 
It is true, don't waste time trying to imply it's not true without actually having any evidence to back it up and then not show any evidence yourself.

Err.. I asked him to prove his position.

Why don't you show me the evidence proving this case first, then I will disprove it.

:rolleyes:

That's it, because there is none.. so you can't.

I too can make generalising sweeping comments.
 
Oh dear, do grow up and learn to read. Firstly crime figures are everywhere, do i really need to google for you, or perhaps you should read a paper or the news, again its on there all the time.

So, go google, then come back when you know what you are talking about.

Ah, I see. You have no support for your argument, so you're hoping I'll go and find some for you. That would be impossible, as your argument is nonsense.

Your argument was not that crime exists, so the existence of crime figures does not support your argument.
 
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