Soldato
either way it backfired spectacularly for Rishi , his over reaction really propelled this issue. If he didn’t then perhaps no one would turn an eye, he did though and it makes one wonder what was he thinking …
Should Britain give back items accumulated from different countries?
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Soldato
No. It's as simple as that.
Pretty much this. The empire was awful in many ways but buying hisotrical artifacts for cheap from countries that didn't care is the only reason most of this stuff is considered worth anything to begin with. I'd rather it be cherished in a museum than left to rot in some middle eastern country and inevitably be blown up by the Terrorist group of the week.
Ignoring the blatant dishonesty of a supposed ally would have made him look weak.. the marbles are just red meat for Greek nationalists (and self loathing Brits) much like Argentina bringing up the Falklands and Spain banging on about Gibraltar... the marbles aren't going anywhere.
Soldato
yes.... people visit the British museum to view British history and artifacts not items that's been pillaged from other countries or is that the type of history that us British people want to show the world?
It's fine when museum borrow or lend artifacts from other parts of the world for a short period of time to allow people who don't/can't travel to see them.
It's not like the Briish museum is making money from them, it's free to go into the museum and it's probably costing us the british tax payer some amounts per year just maintain them while we keep them here.
EDIT: Earl of Elgin purchased them for his private collection from the Ottoman Empire when they was in control of Greece, the only reason why the British museum has them, is because he re-sold them when he was broke.. Even at the time it caused a stir...
daily.jstor.org
It's fine when museum borrow or lend artifacts from other parts of the world for a short period of time to allow people who don't/can't travel to see them.
It's not like the Briish museum is making money from them, it's free to go into the museum and it's probably costing us the british tax payer some amounts per year just maintain them while we keep them here.
EDIT: Earl of Elgin purchased them for his private collection from the Ottoman Empire when they was in control of Greece, the only reason why the British museum has them, is because he re-sold them when he was broke.. Even at the time it caused a stir...
Wait, Why Are the Parthenon Marbles in London? - JSTOR Daily
Lord Elgin went beyond his original mandate, amassing a vast store of treasures, one scholar notes.
daily.jstor.org
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Soldato
Just make really good copies, get the Greeks to pay shipping and handling costs and when all over, sip tea knowing that they have some really good copies.
Caporegime
No, people go to the British museum to view the antiquities of the world, not just britain.yes.... people visit the British museum to view British history and artifacts not items that's been pillaged from other countries or is that the type of history that us British people want to show the world?
It's fine when museum borrow or lend artifacts from other parts of the world for a short period of time to allow people who don't/can't travel to see them.
It's not like the Briish museum is making money from them, it's free to go into the museum and it's probably costing us the british tax payer some amounts per year just maintain them while we keep them here.
EDIT: Earl of Elgin purchased them for his private collection from the Ottoman Empire when they was in control of Greece, the only reason why the British museum has them, is because he re-sold them when he was broke.. Even at the time it caused a stir...
Wait, Why Are the Parthenon Marbles in London? - JSTOR Daily
Lord Elgin went beyond his original mandate, amassing a vast store of treasures, one scholar notes.
You might want to check wikipedia lol - its not the musuem of Britain.yes.... people visit the British museum to view British history and artifacts not items that's been pillaged from other countries or is that the type of history that us British people want to show the world?
It's fine when museum borrow or lend artifacts from other parts of the world for a short period of time to allow people who don't/can't travel to see them.
It's not like the Briish museum is making money from them, it's free to go into the museum and it's probably costing us the british tax payer some amounts per year just maintain them while we keep them here.
EDIT: Earl of Elgin purchased them for his private collection from the Ottoman Empire when they was in control of Greece, the only reason why the British museum has them, is because he re-sold them when he was broke.. Even at the time it caused a stir...
Wait, Why Are the Parthenon Marbles in London? - JSTOR Daily
Lord Elgin went beyond his original mandate, amassing a vast store of treasures, one scholar notes.
Soldato
You’re wrong , Greek nationalists don’t give a flying bat for the marbles , they want Constantinople back lmao. The average Greek would fancy these marbles back but he has serious problems to think of such as inflation, rising costs etc. there was no mention of the marbles in the news until last week to give you a perspective .
Good stuff - seems like no reason to change the status quo.
If it was one of the Terracotta soldiers and China was threatening to block exports of consumer goods to Britain I wonder how you'd react to us giving it back without a second thought, but since it's a weak country it's fine I guess.
From China perspective that would be like cutting your nose off to spite your face.. but its not surprising that Apple are shifting iPhone production to India from 2025...
Well they've already pushed over a hundred thousand hongkongers here, what do you think Greece could do with it's migrants?
Not really the same thing is it - but typical leftie to trivialise and politicise peoples lives.