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You'd have to do it as a percentage of salary, would get messy and unfair.
Should football have a sin bin?
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You'd have to do it as a percentage of salary, would get messy and unfair.
Caporegime
Um, that does exist in football doesn't it
I don't believe so. If the ref sees it and decides not to do anything then there cannot be retrospective punishment.
Um, that does exist in football doesn't it
Yeah as Dante said if the ref doesn't take some sort of action in the game I don't think anything can be done after the game in football.
Caporegime
I thought it was only if the ref had take some action ( such as a yellow) then they couldn't then change it to a stronger punishment?
I don't believe so. The two most recent cases I can think of are Alex Song and the elbowing guy from yesterday. If the ref had seen both incidents and chosen not to do anything then that is that. In rugby you get cited if you commit an offence regardless of whether the ref punishes you or not, see Schalk Burgers eye gouging during the Lions tour.
Soldato
Its something I thought I'd like to see implimented but I don't know, I'm not sure it would make the game better in reality.
Football is a contact sport and by nature very competitive, several yellow cards can be dished out in a matter of seconds which could turn a game into a farce. Alternatively, the risk of punishment might turn the game into a non contact sport = boring.
You could argure that no more than 1 person in the sin bin for each team at a time and yellows could be stacked meaning when a player comes out of the bin another goes in but where does it end? What about this, players to be replaced (for 10 minutes or so) after receiving a yellow. This means squad players might get to play a bigger role....?
Football is a contact sport and by nature very competitive, several yellow cards can be dished out in a matter of seconds which could turn a game into a farce. Alternatively, the risk of punishment might turn the game into a non contact sport = boring.
You could argure that no more than 1 person in the sin bin for each team at a time and yellows could be stacked meaning when a player comes out of the bin another goes in but where does it end? What about this, players to be replaced (for 10 minutes or so) after receiving a yellow. This means squad players might get to play a bigger role....?
I think shami is right and if the ref 'misses' the incident the player can then be punished retrospectively. See tamas' elbow at norwich at the weekend.
Associate
I play Hockey and the sin bin works fine there. There just has to be a lot more respect for the referee in general.
Caporegime
No, no it shouldn't.
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The current system is fine, it's just that a lot of referee's are too scared to card player's these days.
Take the world cup for example, De Jong and Van Bommel should have been sent off about 10 times in some matches.
Take the world cup for example, De Jong and Van Bommel should have been sent off about 10 times in some matches.
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Possibly but it would lead to 10 mins (or insert your sin bin time) of the 10 man team putting all 10 men behind the ball, wasting time and destroying the game until their player came back on. It would be a turgid 10 mins.
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Within the course of a full game i accept that a red card would give an advantage to the team with 11 men, over the course of the remainder of the game they could press home the advantage.
However if you know you (as the fouling team) only had to last for 10 mins, you would just destroy the game knowing your man will be back on then.
I dont see how it adds to the game TBH.
Most teams will do "backs to the wall" for 10 mins quite well, which is normally reserved for games when they are 1 goal up with 10 mins to go.
It also gives the ref a nice cop out from big decisions which i also think is wrong.
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so to fix a problem some referee's have your going to completely change the game?
the game is not broken, just referee's are too lenient.
if it's a bookable offence then book them, I was watching the champions league this week and some player made a dodgy tackle from behind minutes after his first yellow, even the pundits/commentators were saying he was extremely lucky to be staying on the pitch, but he was playing for the "home team".
he should have been sent off, if the team complained, the referee should have stated it was a bookable offence so he was rightly booked for it, it's not the referee's fault the player could not follow the rules of the game.
when referee's get decisions wrong they are crucified, players being sent off does not ruin the game, the players know the rules, they should follow them. i do however also believe replay's need to be brought in for all major decisions and some sort of appeal system for teams. would make the game a lot easier to control/manage. i dont think it would ruin the flow of the game as the game stops for 5 minutes at a time when a player get's tackled and needs attention. 30 seconds for some replays and analysis would not hurt.
if i went into comet and stole a 65 inch plasma tv, and the judge/police said it's okay, im going to let you off because i dont want to make your friends/family angry by sending you to jail. how would you react then?
live by the sword and you shall die by the sword, if players make dodgy tackles then they are running the risk of being sent off, simple as, referee's need to toughen up.
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The ref should just start dishing out yellows when the players badmouth them, or get aggressive.
That would stop the overpaid primadonnas from squaring up to the officials.
That would stop the overpaid primadonnas from squaring up to the officials.
