Poll: Should Gary McKinnon be extradited to the US for hacking?

Should he?

  • Yes

    Votes: 232 19.5%

  • No

    Votes: 823 69.3%

  • I don't like poles

    Votes: 132 11.1%
  • Total voters
    1,187

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7768394.stm

Would be nice if a poll was added. ;)

He's a hacker. He got into Nasa, the US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Department of Defense computers with apparently little problems as he claimed they had no security.

Now if they left themselves open that easily, why should he be tried and possibly sentenced to 70 years in prison?

He should be recruited to help them, not beaten down.

So, do you think he should be tried here or the US?
 
She should be employed by the british security service. He's a british citizen and should not be taken away to be locked away in a US prison with no chance of release. :mad:
 
He broke the law, it's as simple as that.

Would you rather a murderer joined the army because of a paticularly good headshot he got with his rifle?

Slightly different I know, but he broke the law, he knew he was breaking the law. Granted he isn't in the same category as a murdered and so on, and he potentially has a lot to give back in terms of knowledge.
 
Wiggins said:
Now if they left themselves open that easily, why should he be tried and possibly sentenced to 70 years in prison?
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that's a retarded argument.

If someone doesn't make it hard to kill them should a murderer be let off?


He broke the law he knew what he was doing, breaking into such syustems could have endangered the lives of soldiers and i5nteligence officers depending on the information he got.

Why shouldn't he be deported?
 
Tombo said:
Because 70 years is ridiculous.
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No it isn't.


It's what the law is, he knew it he still did it.


The punishment is so harsh so as to deter people from bothering. Hacking databases containing info that puts lives at risk should be punished severely.
 
Tefal said:
The punishment is so harsh so as to deter people from bothering. Hacking databases containing info that puts lives at risk should be punished severely.
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You make it sound like you believe government databases are full of information that have your best interests at heart ;)
 
DampCat said:
You make it sound like you believe government databases are full of information that have your best interests at heart ;)
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The department of defence system could well have information on future troop movements, same for the air force army and navy along with technical information, and the NSA systems could have information that could identify informants thus putting thier lives at greater risk along with the rest of the country due to the loss of a source.

So yeah I guess the Army might just have my best interests, my interest not to have my cousin shot for one, at heart
 
Tefal said:
that's a retarded argument.

If someone doesn't make it hard to kill them should a murderer be let off?


He broke the law he knew what he was doing, breaking into such syustems could have endangered the lives of soldiers and i5nteligence officers depending on the information he got.

Why shouldn't he be deported?
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I think he should be tried for his crimes but if someone murders a person, 70 years would not be given. A life sentence of 25-30 years maybe.

If given 70 years, there is no time to be reformed. If it was proved he was a terrorist, would he get 70 years?

He claimed he was looking for UFO files. If a governenment is so hell bent on hiding such things then people are going to look for them.
 
Wiggins said:
I think he should be tried for his crimes but if someone murders a person, 70 years would not be given. A life sentence of 25-30 years maybe.
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In America a life sentence or a death sentence would be handed out.

If given 70 years, there is no time to be reformed. If it was proved he was a terrorist, would he get 70 years?
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Doesn't matter about reform, this is denial of an asset to foreign powers, while he;s locked up he can;t do it again. When it;s security at stake that's all that's important.

if it was proved he was terrorist, then no he'd be given life in guantanamo if he was lucky, if he was unlucky, well then he'd probbably be wishing he'd got the death sentance.

He claimed he was looking for UFO files. If a governenment is so hell bent on hiding such things then people are going to look for them.
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Yeah sure he was, and are you saying the government is hiding info on aliens?

a lot of the time info about UFos is hushed up cause it's military info, the government keeps it's nuclear weapon designs hidden to, is it ok to look for them?
 
Tefal said:
The department of defence system could well have information on future troop movements, same for the air force army and navy along with technical information, and the NSA systems could have information that could identify informants thus putting thier lives at greater risk along with the rest of the country due to the loss of a source.

So yeah I guess the Army might just have my best interests, my interest not to have my cousin shot for one, at heart
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Oh damn man, i forgot about your cousin. Damn. I should have known you'd have some sort of personal tie to this. Damn. Now i totally feel guilty.
 
DampCat said:
Oh damn man, i forgot about your cousin. Damn. I should have known you'd have some sort of personal tie to this. Damn. Now i totally feel guilty.
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right, so completely ignoring the rest then?

So you see no issue with information tat the army, navy and air force keeps secret just being publicly known?
 
'Hacking' is a harsh term, he logged in using default admin passwords. He noticed IP's from several Countries including China and left messages on their computers trying to warn them. I'm not trying to justify his actions but he doesn't deserve 70 years. His actions where not malicious.
 
The crime was comitted on British soil even though the 'cyberness' of it related to the US so I think he should stay.

The US should have had extremely strict policies on their security but it looks like they did not. They should be punished for not adhering to their own security policies also. Would it be the whole fault of the burglar if you were to leave your front door wide open and go to work?

Even though such security policies were apparently not implemented, I dont think he would have got into the heart of the systems.
 
BBC said:
Campaigners said the fact that Mr McKinnon has Asperger's Syndrome should be taken into account.
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I swear one of the other interns i worked with last year had AS too. Weird people...

I Wouldn't be surprised if half way through his extradition (if it happens) some Chinese operatives abduct him.
 
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If he serves any time it should be in a british jail.

He did get into the systems, but he didn't cause any damage did he?
 
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