Should I update my BIOS (AM5 platform) to AGESA v1.1.0.0 (new)?

g67575 · 24 Nov 2023 at 17:36

I think my current BIOS AGESA version is 1.0.0.4 (December 2022), which is the only one I found to be completely stable with my DDR5 RAM running at 6000 MT/s (1:1 IMC), at least so far. Also, this was the first AGESA version to support sleep mode with my board.

I heard different AGESA versions handle current /power levels differently...

A couple of non-beta BIOS versions (AGESA v1.1.0.0) for my B650 PG Lightning board are now available here:

https://pg.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B650%20PG%20Lightning/index.asp#BIOS

Is there much reason to update the BIOS version, if all is currently working?

I skipped the previous AGESA version (1.0.0.7c) because ASRock's was classed as a Beta.

Is there much information yet about what features /changes this AGESA version offers? It appears to be a few MBs larger than the previous AGESA version.

Jamin280672 · 24 Nov 2023 at 17:59

g67575 said:
I think my current BIOS AGESA version is 1.0.0.4 (December 2022), which is the only one I found to be completely stable with my DDR5 RAM running at 6000 MT/s (1:1 IMC), at least so far. Also, this was the first AGESA version to support sleep mode with my board.

I heard different AGESA versions handle current /power levels differently...

A couple of non-beta BIOS versions (AGESA v1.1.0.0) for my B650 PG Lightning board are now available here:

https://pg.asrock.com/mb/AMD/B650%20PG%20Lightning/index.asp#BIOS

Is there much reason to update the BIOS version, if all is currently working?

I skipped the AGESA version because ASRock's was classed as a Beta.

Is there much information yet about what features /changes this AGESA version offers? It appears to be a few MBs larger than the previous AGESA version.

1.1.0.0 brings support for the new APUs which are on the way.

I would at least upgrade to 1.0.0.7c especially with all the SOC over voltage problems frying chips, I would say with you current bios version you are probably not protected from that, but as that one is a beta, if you're not comfortable with it then go straight for the 1.1.0.0 version, in your case go straight to 2.02 as they fixed a USB issue in that one that maybe 2.01 brought to the table.

For me on my ASUS Gene newer bioses have brought better FCLK speeds and better RAM stability and overclocking potential, faster post times (no more hanging on memory training code 15)

g67575 · 24 Nov 2023 at 18:09

I think the main thing that's been putting me off doing a BIOS update is having to reconfigure my BIOS settings, particularly the memory timings and settings. It's a pain.

Jamin280672 · 24 Nov 2023 at 18:29

g67575 said:
I think the main thing that's been putting me off doing a BIOS update is having to reconfigure my BIOS settings, particularly the memory timings and settings. It's a pain.

I video record mine on my mobile phone and then just copy the settings straight back over after the flash has finished, but I know what you mean.

Elevon · 24 Nov 2023 at 20:47

g67575 said:
I think the main thing that's been putting me off doing a BIOS update is having to reconfigure my BIOS settings, particularly the memory timings and settings. It's a pain.

Can't you save BIOS settings to USB and reload them after BIOS update?..I know you can on ASUS boards.

Jamin280672 · 24 Nov 2023 at 20:52

Elevon said:
Can't you save BIOS settings to USB and reload them after BIOS update?..I know you can on ASUS boards.

its not recommended between different bios versions as things get moved around, for instance your one of your ram timing may get applied to your one of your PBO settings instead (example)

g67575 · 24 Nov 2023 at 20:58

Jamin280672 said:
I video record mine on my mobile phone and then just copy the settings straight back over after the flash has finished, but I know what you mean.

That's a good idea.

I took some photos, but it's easy to miss stuff with the number of things I changed.

g67575 · 24 Nov 2023 at 21:00

How's the stability of the current AGESA version, and version 1.0.0.7(c)?

Anyone noticed any improvements?

PaulM · 24 Nov 2023 at 21:45

On 1.0.0.6 with my B650 AORUS ELITE AX I used to get a random crash about once a week, been on their alpha BIOS with AGESA 1.1.0.0 and it hasn't crashed yet, although I probably just jinxed it

john_smith · 24 Nov 2023 at 21:54

Interesting thread

I’ve an msi tomahawk x670e
7800x3d
2 x 16gb 6000/cl30 gskill ram.

The only way it’s stable is with stock settings. I can’t run expo at all.

On earlier bios it was rock solid. I wish I’d never updated.

Jamin280672 · 24 Nov 2023 at 23:27

g67575 said:
How's the stability of the current AGESA version, and version 1.0.0.7(c)?

Anyone noticed any improvements?

I found the biggest changes for my board on 1.0.8.0, looks like your ASRock board skipped that agesa though, for me it was 1709 https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-crosshair/rog-crosshair-x670e-gene-model/helpdesk_bios/

1.0.0.7b was to help with RAM overclocking but only seemed to help with Hynix based sticks, so they released 1.0.0.7c to help Samsung based RAM overclocks.

You can see in that link above that 1.0.0.7a was to limit the SOC voltage to save the board frying chips.

JollyJamma · 24 Nov 2023 at 23:53

john_smith said:
Interesting thread

I’ve an msi tomahawk x670e
7800x3d
2 x 16gb 6000/cl30 gskill ram.

The only way it’s stable is with stock settings. I can’t run expo at all.

On earlier bios it was rock solid. I wish I’d never updated.

Manually set your SOC voltage and see if that helps.

g67575 · 25 Nov 2023 at 00:59

I set my SOC voltage manually a while ago, it should be within safe limits.

john_smith · 25 Nov 2023 at 06:39

Is there a guide for doing that? Sorry I’m clueless on these things.

Jamin280672 · 25 Nov 2023 at 09:55

g67575 said:
I set my SOC voltage manually a while ago, it should be within safe limits.

Make sure you set it in your boards Tweaker menu and also in the AMD overclocking menu too as one can override the other if one of them is set to auto, the AMD overclocking menu works in mV so mine is set to 1.26v in the ASUS Tweaker menu, and 1260mV in the AMD overclocking menu > SOC Voltage.

Buildzoid did a big video about the one menu soc voltage overriding the other on a Gigabyte X670 Master board, i'll see if I can find the link

Testing some very strange VSOC behaviour on the Gigabyte X670E Aorus Master with the F10c BIOS

My Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/buildzoidTeespring: https://teespring.com/stores/actually-hardcore-overclockingBandcamp: https://machineforscreams.bandca...

youtu.be

PaulM · 25 Nov 2023 at 12:11

PaulM said:
On 1.0.0.6 with my B650 AORUS ELITE AX I used to get a random crash about once a week, been on their alpha BIOS with AGESA 1.1.0.0 and it hasn't crashed yet, although I probably just jinxed it

I did indeed jinx it and it crashed overnight, there's a new stable 1.0.0.7c release that I haven't tried yet so that's next

JollyJamma · 25 Nov 2023 at 12:31

g67575 said:
I set my SOC voltage manually a while ago, it should be within safe limits.

Hmmm ok, that’s really weird.

I always search the BIOS version on Reddit as people often raise issues and post there in r/AMD.

g67575 · 27 Nov 2023 at 16:26

Can some of you let me know how you've gotten on with updating your BIOS to AGESA v1.1.0.0?

Apart from the ability to run DDR5 at frequencies above 6000 MT/s (Since AGESA 1.0.0.7), have there been many other improvements or performance enhancements?

Jamin280672 · 28 Nov 2023 at 20:57

g67575 said:
Can some of you let me know how you've gotten on with updating your BIOS to AGESA v1.1.0.0?

Apart from the ability to run DDR5 at frequencies above 6000 MT/s (Since AGESA 1.0.0.7), have there been many other improvements or performance enhancements?

ASUS version is still in beta and its a buggy buggy mess so I back flashed to 1.0.8.0 until they fix things.

Board hanging on B4 post code = USB errors, a cmos reset and then reload the settings fixes it for a short time, then its back again, but only happens on 1.1.0.0

M.2 drives going missing, a reboot normally fixes it.

It brought more bad than good

g67575 · 30 Nov 2023 at 23:34

I'm tempted to wait a bit more, then.

Can't beat a working, stable system!