should people be arrested for offensive costumes?

[cheesyboy]

I'm interested in the mention down article of the Hitler lad.

At a time when we still had people alive who were old enough to remember the war as adults, and young enough to still influence culture, dressing up as a Nazi and goose-stepping around was seen as ridiculing them, something funny.

Why is it now seen as beyond the pale?

 

[The_Arbiter]

Just another story of nobody got nothing better to do as life's too easy. The individual, the reporter of incident, the police, the newspaper, and us.

 

[Hades]

I'm interested in the mention down article of the Hitler lad.

At a time when we still had people alive who were old enough to remember the war as adults, and young enough to still influence culture, dressing up as a Nazi and goose-stepping around was seen as ridiculing them, something funny.

Why is it now seen as beyond the pale?

A very good point.

 

[PlacidCasual]

Incels represented in this thread is near 90% captain. She's gonna blow!!!

You would agree of course that this is plainly offensive and deserves jail time


The current business with people being jailed for causing offense via electronic communication is a gross overuse of the law.

“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”

Which probably applies to being offensive too.

 

[dlockers]

You would agree of course that this is plainly offensive and deserves jail time

Luckily we are in a thread of free speech absolutists

 

[PlacidCasual]

Luckily we are in a thread of free speech absolutists

Absolutely

 

[inferno]

You can shout jihad and allah Akbar in the streets of London though because that’s just a common phrase. Mental.

 

[aVdub]

You can shout jihad and allah Akbar in the streets of London though because that’s just a common phrase. Mental.

Arabic for God is Great, but not what god and the other can be used when undertaking a task.

If I spoke Arabic and was a Christian I would use the same word (Allah Akbar)


Mental.

 

[D-Ranged]

You can shout jihad and allah Akbar in the streets of London though because that’s just a common phrase. Mental.

Catholic priests probably shout something similar in their chosen language before inserting their flaccid slug into a little boy too.

 

[danoliver1]

https://news.sky.com/story/grenfell...ng-offensive-video-of-effigy-on-fire-12594274
Man got sent to prison for making an effigy of Grenfell tower but the companies who allowed combustible cladding to be used on the building not so much as a talking to.

 

[BUDFORCE]

https://news.sky.com/story/grenfell...ng-offensive-video-of-effigy-on-fire-12594274
Man got sent to prison for making an effigy of Grenfell tower but the companies who allowed combustible cladding to be used on the building not so much as a talking to.

Yup exactly.

It's easy to prosecute the little fish.

Made a racist comment of Facebook, straight to jail.

Someone robbing your house with a gun, "here is your crime number, go to your insurance company, call us back if they actually start shooting at you.....or start making racist comments on Facebook"

 

[inferno]

Arabic for God is Great, but not what god and the other can be used when undertaking a task.

If I spoke Arabic and was a Christian I would use the same word (Allah Akbar)


Mental.

I spent 12 years in the Middle East and didn’t see people doing that on the scale they have been doing in London supporting terrorist organisations with seemingly no consequences.

Catholic priests probably shout something similar in their chosen language before inserting their flaccid slug into a little boy too.

lol, not going to disagree with that sentiment.

 

[dlockers]

I spent 12 years in the Middle East and didn’t see people doing that on the scale they have been doing in London supporting terrorist organisations with seemingly no consequences.

lol ironic you are triggered by folk shouting stuff harmlessly in the street but literally lived for 12 years in the states that directly fund most of the actual terrorism.

 

[Efour]

Death penalty for being a bit of a bellboy.
40 years old.... Lol

 

[robfosters]

Does this mean I can’t wear my Ku Klux Clan costume to parties anymore?

 

[Fubsy]

Does this mean I can’t wear my Ku Klux Clan costume to parties anymore?

Of course you can. I wouldn't want to, I'm fearful of what would happen to me.

Not long after moving into my current home, I went to the Halloween event at a local pub. I very quickly became to feel uneasy about the place as there was a group of white hooded KKK guys sat in one corner, then another guy walked in wearing a red robe and joined them, no one seemed to bat an eye.

Later in the evening I went the toilet, and one of them was in there, hood removed. A black guy. What a relief. Seemed that the local black guys had conspired together to go to a Halloween event dressed as the Klan, because you know, they have a sense of ****ing humour.

 

[PlacidCasual]

Ku Klux Clan costumes are a knock off of Spanish Catholic costume for some festival or other going back hundreds of years. The burning crosses thing comes from some old film called Birth of a Nation which is itself a mistake based on William Wallace lighting burning crosses as his army marched into England. But they didn't know Wallace's crosses were Saltire's not crucifixes.

 

[Haggisman]

Depends on the context & intent IMO.

Going to a fancy dress party with a few mates, dressed as <insert controversial figure here> for a laugh - fine.
Dressing up as <insert controversial figure here> to purposefully be a ****, with the end goal to offend/upset people - not cool .

In this case it seems to be the former, so no, I don't think he should be arrested for it, what a waste of police time
Obviously if he'd turned up at the home of the family of one of the people killed in the attack and started being an ****, that would be a different matter.

Where do you draw the line otherwise? Should a 5 year old dressing as the devil for halloween be sent to juvy, since surely that is extremely offensive to devout Christians? What about dressing as a pirate with a peg-leg? Wouldn't want to upset any amputees!

 

[Chojin]

I'm interested in the mention down article of the Hitler lad.

At a time when we still had people alive who were old enough to remember the war as adults, and young enough to still influence culture, dressing up as a Nazi and goose-stepping around was seen as ridiculing them, something funny.

Why is it now seen as beyond the pale?

For power, there are third generation Holocaust survivors who want special treatment similar to indigenous peoples wanting reparations.

This is what happens when you import culture from elsewhere, not necessarily from immigration but from external influences. Social norms are being steered by random people on the internet and the country loses its integrity.

 

[arknor]

Which rage bait feed served you up an article from October last year to get upset about?

None did...
It eas in the news again recently, I guess because he's being sentenced next month...

if you had paid attention you would see the quotations in my post aren't from that old article, the actual linked article I think didn't even confirm if he was arrested just said people had informed the police?


I went to google and googled the guys name, found an article that had the least cookies/adverts spam and posted that link instead.

sorry thought I was doing the right thing rather than getting everyone to accept 1000tracker cookies or whatever..


anyway is it not important? this guy will no doubt serve jail time, after we just let out real criminals, sex offenders, even a murderer etc too make space... for a guy who does inappropriate cosplay

huw edwards what was his sentence again???? suspended. even thought he was only caught due to being in contact with another nonse who got arrested


our criminal system is satire, keir watched idiocracy and thought it was as epiphany