Should the 'luxury car tax' threshold be raised?

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found it, the change is also retrospective which is interesting

It was funny because you could buy a brand new Ford Mustang and not get charged the higher rate but if you bought a second hand BMW i3 on which somebody had added a few options you had to pay the full rate :D
 
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It was funny because you could buy a brand new Ford Mustang and not get charged the higher rate but if you bought a second hand BMW i3 on which somebody had added a few options you had to pay the full rate :D
Surely the i3 wouldn't pay being an ev, although 40k for a toy car is a crime in itself lol.
 
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I think it's too low a limit. It occasionally needs to shuffle upwards. It's impossible to buy a family car from a few brands, which are mass market stuff, not luxury, like a 320d or whatever. Even a nice Kia Sportage is well towards the limit. Unless that is the intention of course, to be a tax on nice cars, not luxury ones. It does stop me spending more on a car though so it probably does the same for others. It wasn't ideal the old system being based solely on CO2, but at least it was staggered.
 
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Who buys a £40k+ car and can't afford to pay the additional costs for it? There's plenty of used cars below that which have all of the "needs".

Edit: just saw it includes used cars with a "new value" of £40k... I don't agree with that.

New? Yes.
Used < 5 years ago? No...
 
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I think it's actually 6 yrs as you pay for the next 5yrs, this is the aspect I think is a joke.
That's annoying. My car is 4 years old (tomorrow, haby burt doy!) and I was hoping that meant 1 year to go (this'll be the 5th time it is taxed)... however what you are saying is the car needs to be 6 years old?

What happens if the car is taxed out of sync with 1st reg year too?
 
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That's what the quote from dvla suggests, I don't actually know.

No idea what being out of sync would mean but I would imagine it is just annual from first tax date.
 
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Who buys a £40k+ car and can't afford to pay the additional costs for it? There's plenty of used cars below that which have all of the "needs".

Edit: just saw it includes used cars with a "new value" of £40k... I don't agree with that.

New? Yes.
Used < 5 years ago? No...
It’s not about it not being affordable, it’s about coughing up money for nothing in return. An extra £350 a month is like making 13 payments a year, not 12. Or the price of two services.
 
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I never understood why it was introduced in the first place. It penalises people for buying and expensive car, not a polluting one. I would have thought that value of vehicle has nothing to do with what the gov were wanting to achieve, which I assume, is to reduce pollution. The sooner we get rid of the 200+ CO2 vehicles the better IMHO but penalising people for buying a car that costs more than 40k seems ridiculous.

And yes,the extra years of £475 a year road tax does sting because it seems so unfair.
 
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what the gov were wanting to achieve, which I assume, is to reduce pollution
What they were trying to achieve was to raise tax money from people in a way that wasn't easily avoided and was also publicly palatable because at the time £40k cars were the reserve of the relatively well off. It's probably semi deliberate that it doesn't raise with inflation, so as to increase the tax take over time.
 
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What they were trying to achieve was to raise tax money from people in a way that wasn't easily avoided and was also publicly palatable because at the time £40k cars were the reserve of the relatively well off. It's probably semi deliberate that it doesn't raise with inflation, so as to increase the tax take over time.
Yes, I suppose it's like stamp duty. Introduced when the threshold affected relatively few house sales, but now is pretty much on every sale to some extent.
 
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