Shucked 12 or 14TB Hard Drives any good (for a NAS)?

The Asgard said:
Perfect. I read some articles saying manufactures were putting in some protection to stop you from doing this. Just wanted to know if you could still Shuk drives.
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Some external cases are clearly harder to open without breaking something.
Haven't opened Seagate's external drives myself, but when last time checking videos there seemed to be some tabs etc needing special tool to open.

WD Elements (/its rebrandings) should be still easy to open without physical damage, if you take it slowly and use care and old credit cards etc plastic thing to wedge it open.
(instead of screw drivers etc)
 
EsaT said:
Some external cases are clearly harder to open without breaking something.
Haven't opened Seagate's external drives myself, but when last time checking videos there seemed to be some tabs etc needing special tool to open.

WD Elements (/its rebrandings) should be still easy to open without physical damage, if you take it slowly and use care and old credit cards etc plastic thing to wedge it open.
(instead of screw drivers etc)
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Thanks for the advice, appreciated.
 
The Asgard said:
Good news.
If you don't mind me asking. What price did you pay?

Just want to get a reference to where prices are now. Just so I can get the best deal.

I have a Synology NAS running a 5 disk SHR-2 array. There's 4 4TB CMR Reds and a 4 TB Iron Wolf. The reds are around 5 years old so I'm going to start swapping them out for something bigger. Go down 3 disks plus backup
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They were £183.99 each
free delivery
 
I have found a WD 24TB Elements external USB 3.2 Gen 1 HDD that I am going to be using to back up my NAS.

Would I see any benefit from shucking the drive and installing it internally via SATA?

My guess would be the HDD would be the speed limiting factor rather than the interface.

Also how can I tell if it is CMR? I don't want to end up with a SMR drive.

The data sheet on WD site has a broken link.
 
I believe WD's SMR stops at 6TB so you should be safe with 24TB. I agree the HDD will be the limitation rather than the interface so not worth shucking it. I have two 12TB Red Plus in RAID 1 and they manage around 260GBps, not quite saturating a 2.5Gbps link, so a 5GBps USB3 link is far better than the HDD will need.
 
For large drives I prefer shucking because the SATA interface is more robust than USB and the cables are less likely to go bad, you can cool them easyer to and they are not going to get knocked over or a drink spilled on them. If you do keep it external and do any sustained transfers I'd recommend keeping on eye on temps and directing a fan at it if needed.
 
Recertified or New on sale WD My Books have been my go to. Got 3 8tb drives in my node 804 unraid build.
They seem to have gone up in price and aren't available as much now.

I have seen Seagate Iron Wolfs going on Amazon for suspicious prices, but am concerned that they might be too good to be true.
 
John24 said:
For large drives I prefer shucking because the SATA interface is more robust than USB and the cables are less likely to go bad, you can cool them easyer to and they are not going to get knocked over or a drink spilled on them. If you do keep it external and do any sustained transfers I'd recommend keeping on eye on temps and directing a fan at it if needed.
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Can confirm. The My Books i shucked ran very hot in their enclosures. Even with a fan pointed at it they still got too warm for comfort (around 60c). Shucked they are warm (36-40c) but nothing compared to being in an enclosure.
 
Snapshot said:
You may find those are s/h drives being sold as new, a recognised problem caused by an unscrupulous wholesaler.
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Ah makes sense. I guess if they work it's still a good value. Anyone know what the best drives are to shuck?

I know WD My Book and Elements are the go to for white label hgst drives.

Seagate external drives always scare me cos I don't know whether to expect barracuda or ironwolf. I think they use more of the SMR drives too right?
 
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